Boba Fett vs Venom

Started by who?-kid8 pages

Okay, I know I said I would leave it to that, but I felt like I was obligated to answer some of your arguments.

Originally posted by Kontraz
and your reasons were....? "because venom is Kool!"

You know very well what the reasons are. I told several times why he would win. Being cool has nothing to do with it. I only look at the facts, and the facts are that Venom is faster, more agile, meaner, more durable, has a very strong web, a spider-sense and is so strong that I seriously doubt Fetts armor will hold. And even if it will hold, Fett is not entirely armored. Even the web alone could give Fett serious trouble ! Do not argue about this, please.

And I would also appreciate it if you didn’t put words in my mouth. Where did I say Venom is cool ? Hah, I only said Boba Fett was cool !!

Originally posted by Thirst
and on that note, yes, Vader did respect Fett, it is stated in the books that he did.

Sigh… yes, in the books that were published AFTER the movies… giving some characters a whole new (and sometimes far fetched) background… maybe it’s me and maybe I didn’t explain it very well.

And Fett, if he was an amateur, was the one to track down a damaged Millenium Falcon.

Come on, be honest, was that sooo incredible hard to do ? Someone had to track down the Millenium Falcon for scenario reasons.
why didnt any of the other bounty hunters? you ignored that question.

There’s nothing to ignore. Boba Fett pulled it off, the others didn’t. Good for him, but again, will that help him against Venom ? And don’t say he’s a real genius because he can follow a damaged ship.
Luke-Leia relationship: to make that first connection between Luke and Leia

Huh ? I will tell you a secret, but since you’re a Star Wars fan (I’m too, a bit) you’ll probably know this one already : George Lucas was so afraid of having sex or insinuating sex in the movie(s), he taped down the breasts of Carrie Fisher, so they didn’t move while she was running… So don’t tell me that a prudish man as Lucas wanted a somehow incestuous relationship in his child friendly movie ! It can only be explained by assuming GL didn't know they were brother and sister. Other explanations are way too far fetched.
Obi-Wan-R2-D2: since when did Luke mention R2-D2's name?

To be honest : don’t remember, but I do remember that Obi did not even remember having a droid. So how do you explain that ?
Star Wars title: Hm...i dont see "Episode V" or "Episode VI" on ESB or ROTJ...they all say Star Wars. And "Episode IV" isnt on A New Hope either.

Yes it is. When the first movie was re-released, the full title was :”Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope,” It was in 1981 or 1982.
Vader-Luke: Vader never once saw Luke's face or even had a clue that he was his son. Nobody mentioned to Vader that Luke's last name was Skywalker.

Well, in that case, the force isn’t as strong as we all thought it was. Vader really should have sensed it was a special somebody, but he didn’t sense one goddamn thing. His old enemy, an old men he hadn’t seen for a very long time, yeah, that was no problem for Vader to sense (in a very large space station), but when he was pursuing his own flesh and blood, the Force was obviously taking a nap.
General-Vader: he refers to the thousands of years the Jedi had guarded the Republic, not to the Jedi themselves.

No he wasn’t. Look at the scene again : he was somewhat complaining against Darth Vader that Vader put too much confidence in “that ancient religion”, which is of course the Force.
and why do you keep saying that Fett died? Do we physically see his corpse? No. So nobody knows for a fact that he died. And if you watch ROTJ again, you'll notice that Fett's primary target is Luke due to the fact that he's a Jedi.

Says who ?
And while he's aiming for Luke, Solo says "Boba Fett?! Where?!" and turns around and accidentially hits Fett's jetpack. That could happen to anyone who's attention is elsewhere.

Sure, but still, you can not call that scene, and the scenes that follow with Boba Fett, as a glorious BF-moment. Far from it. Remove his helmet and his cool pose and you have your everyday stormtrooper.

George Lucas had trouble finding money for the first movie, and 20th Century Fox was convinced it was going to be a disaster. You really think George Lucas was thinking about the background of the characters and about the prequels and sequels ? I very seriously doubt it !!

And yet, you all make it seem it was part of master plan. It was planned a bit, yes, but no as much as you think.

Originally posted by who?-kid
You know very well what the reasons are. I told several times why he would win. Being cool has nothing to do with it. I only look at the facts, and the facts are that Venom is faster, more agile, meaner, more durable, has a very strong web, a spider-sense and is so strong that I seriously doubt Fetts armor will hold. And even if it will hold, Fett is not entirely armored.

Venom is more agile... not faster.... but then again, most of his attacks are physical, whereas a flamethrower can easily connect. Meaner? Hmph... yeah, right... and thats why he goes out of his way to protect all who are "innocent"? Doesn't seem too mean to me.... "very strong web"... burns pretty nicely, though. spider-sense? alright, i'll give it to you, but he still got his ass kicked in lethal prortector, despite his watered-down spidey sense. He is stronger, no doubts there... but catching fett and getting in close enough to use his strength would be quite a task. And yes, Fett IS entirely armored.

and please, in a thread that is meant as a DEBATE, don't go telling others not to debate your "facts" when they are obviously opinionated and/or false.

Could Venom just shoot the web on Boba and pull him to himself, then kick his ass?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Could Venom just shoot the web on Boba and pull him to himself, then kick his ass?

Of course he could. There’s absolutely no reason why he couldn’t.

There are so much ways to give Boba Fett hell with a web : he can blind his eyes with his web, he can web him up, he can, like you said, shoot the web on Boba and pull him to himself, he can web his weapons so they don’t work anymore and so on… This should only take 2,5 seconds. If that.

And for those who are convinced that the almighty flamethrower will be the solution for a web : let’s assume Boba Fett manages to get rid of the web thanks to his flamethrower => everybody knows this will take more than a few seconds, more than enough time for Venom to stroll along and rip his head of.

Originally posted by Kontraz
Venom is more agile... not faster.... but then again, most of his attacks are physical, whereas a flamethrower can easily connect. Meaner? Hmph... yeah, right... and thats why he goes out of his way to protect all who are "innocent"? Doesn't seem too mean to me.... "very strong web"... burns pretty nicely, though. spider-sense? alright, i'll give it to you, but he still got his ass kicked in lethal prortector, despite his watered-down spidey sense. He is stronger, no doubts there... but catching fett and getting in close enough to use his strength would be quite a task. And yes, Fett IS entirely armored.

So basically you’re saying Venom is not invincible ? Thanks for sharing that information with me. I will also share something with you : lots of people can kill Venom. Boba Fett just isn’t one of them.
and please, in a thread that is meant as a DEBATE, don't go telling others not to debate your "facts" when they are obviously opinionated and/or false.

Of course I’m opinionated. Duh. Everybody is. I am and you are. But my facts are not false. Where did I say something completely wrong ? Hm ? And Venom being meaner : I’m obviously talking about Venom fighting against an enemy, not Venom defending an innocent citizen.

Btw, BF is NOT completely armoured. And even if he was, what's holding Venom to take his helmet off ? I'm such a nice guy I even attached a picture showing SOME of the weak spots of his "unbreakable" armor.

Originally posted by who?-kid

Were talking about the comic book version of boba fett. Notice that this is a comic versus forum.

fett sees venom, venom sees fett, fett flys into air, fett shoots venom, venom dodges, venom shoots webs at fett, smashes fett into building, window cleaner scrapes mandalorian blood of window

Originally posted by crazyspinz
fett sees venom, venom sees fett, fett flys into air, fett shoots venom, venom dodges, venom shoots webs at fett, smashes fett into building, window cleaner scrapes mandalorian blood of window

HAHAHA! Funny stuff man. Venom's web shoots with the force of a cannon? Enough to force to fatally smash an armored man into glass that doesn't break?

ya dude, its realy hard glass...

as i said before who-kid... do some research... even the "cloth" components are heavily armored. Mandalorian armor is the most durable and efficient in all of star wars lore (unless something else has been added that i'm not aware of...). Think of the "cloth" as that mythrel stuff that frodo had (the indestrucatble dragon scale stuff or somethign) and the plates are just even stronger....

and yes, a flamethrower would destoroy a stream of webbing nearly instantly.... its part of being a orgainc... IT BURNS!!! And quite quickly, I might add. And why do you keep saying Venom is meaner? LOL. I've NEVER seen Fett run up to an enemy and hug them before gutting them....

and i wasnt saying its wrong to be onpinionated... i'm just saying that your list of "facts" are no more than opinions... WHICH ARE NOT FACTS!!!! And as I have said earlier, GO READ LETHAL PROTECTOR.... just do it... right now. Fett "cannot kill venom". Yeah, sure, yet some security guards wielding flamethrowers and sonic devices can.... right.... 🙄

i know fett has rokets, lasers and guns, but does he aucaly carry a flame thrower around with him, no, and before he could find out wut hurts venom he would be dead

Actually, he has flamethrower around him all the times.
http://www.myfreewallpapers.net/starwars/wallpapers/boba-fett-flamethrower.jpg

Originally posted by Kontraz
Yeah, sure, yet some security guards wielding flamethrowers and sonic devices can.... right.... 🙄

Because they know what Venoms weakness is...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Actually, he has flamethrower around him all the times.
http://www.myfreewallpapers.net/starwars/wallpapers/boba-fett-flamethrower.jpg

realy, cuz i never saw him use it in the movies, but im not as firmialar witrh the star wars comics, but still if fett saw venom, he would try fire first, he would just be like "o look a black spidery guy, im gonna shoot him with lazers" and by the time he relized they wouldnt work fett is pounded to nothing

Originally posted by crazyspinz
realy, cuz i never saw him use it in the movies, but im not as firmialar witrh the star wars comics, but still if fett saw venom, he would try fire first, he would just be like "o look a black spidery guy, im gonna shoot him with lazers" and by the time he relized they wouldnt work fett is pounded to nothing

he wouldnt*** try fire first

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Because they know what Venoms weakness is...

Fett's helm analyzes molecular data on all of his opponents WHILE he fights them. I think it was originally designed to scope out midichlorians (the jedi bacteria type stuff) but now it looks for weaknesses in anything all the way down to cellular and molecular structures.

realy, thats quite the bucket.... so venom, would take off the helm first, why? because its common sense u take of helmate then bite head off

yea i think we need to stop making comparisons with the movie BF and refer to the comic BF...it just doesnt make sense in a comic book forum

Originally posted by Wynndar
yea i think we need to stop making comparisons with the movie BF and refer to the comic BF...it just doesnt make sense in a comic book forum

Okay no problem, I can live with that (though the movie BF is the most known, the most popular and started it all). But okay, no more movie BF.

So, Venom against comic BF ?

BF spots Venom, and fires his gun (whatever gun he wants). Venom, thanks to his sort of spider-sense and his agility, dodges it easily and immediately uses his web to:
- blind Boba Fett
- web up Boba Fett
- web up his weapons
- web up his flying device

(you can pick anything you want)

and then jumps to Boba Fett, who is still struggling with the web (if, for example, he of his weapons are covered up under the sticky, strong web, he has to be very careful not to burn himself or damage his weapons when using his flamethrower, that is, if he still can use his flamethrower).

Venom then has all the time in the world to finish him off while whistling a nice tune. I will leave the rest to your imagination.

Blind fett... how? Throw web at him? Fett has jedi-like reflexes.. porbably on par with venom's spider-sense. The web would be fired, and as it comes soaring at him, fett just torches it into little cinders of carbon.... plain and simple. Really, venom's webbing isn't going to help him here. The ONLY thing that would save him is his brute strength, but even then, catching fett is going to be nearly impossible for him. as I have said multiple times already LETHAL PROTECTOR. Fett is just like an uber version of one of those guys....

Originally posted by Kontraz
Blind fett... how? Throw web at him?

Yes exactly.
Fett has jedi-like reflexes..

Oh, it was those reflexes I saw in the movies - oops, I did it again, I mentioned the movies 😛 Sorry, won't happen again.
porbably on par with venom's spider-sense.

Wow, hold it young man.
The web would be fired

Yes, very true. Finally something we agree on.
and as it comes soaring at him, fett just torches it into little cinders of carbon.... plain and simple.

as it comes soaring at him... just like it's taking a few hours to actually reach Boba Fett. Reflexes or no reflexes, he's still a human, and no human can burn a web fired by Venom with a clumsy flamethrower before it reaches him. You realize the web is very very fast, it's like Venom fires his web - zziiip (half a second) - web reaches Boba Fett.

As it comes soaring... 😆