People need to put aside their personal crushes on movie actors and obsessions with their favorite movies to understand what critical decisions go into choosing Oscar nominations. There is no way these movies were on the level of the movies that were nominated. That is the facts, regardless of anyone's personal attachments to the movies or stars in them. It would be laughable for these films to be nominated for anything other than their technical achievements (which were very good, but still would have not won out over LOTR). And I'm not dissing the movies here...I'm only speaking objectively, not as a fan of any movie or actors.
Originally posted by AliasNeo15
i mean, Keanu did more work than any of the other Actor nominated. He went through 2 and a half years of straight work. He deserved atleast a friggin nomination😂
Are u serious that Keanu deserves an oscar? His acting is horrible. I think that Both matrixes should have at least been nominated for best visual affects but other than that they shoulnt be nominated for anything.
Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions deserved nominations for: VFX (visual effects), original score (orchestrated music), and original story (don't think that's even a category). Yes..they most definitely did. Warner Bros picked Revolutions as the one to submit for competition, because they didn't want both movies to cancel each other out while they were being voted on. I would have picked Reloaded, myself, simply because of the razors edge effect that Revolutions had on audiences (you loved it or hated it - nothing in between) - and it would have been stronger in the visual effects category (the highway scene, the twins, The Million Smith March against Neo, Zion, and, ofcourse, the re-invention of bullet time to make Cinema Time (a seamless variation of bullet time - it had it all!)
However, like I've mentioned previously, LOTR had not received their due in the past two years, and it was widely speculated (and all but acknowledge at the Academy Awards) that they were waiting for the release of ROTK to give them a clean sweep. The effects in the LOTR trilogy was just as deserving (and even more so since the first Matrix did take the Oscars in the FX categories). I think that it would have been shameful to try to make the two compete, aside of the fact it would be comparing apples and oranges, the Matrix crew has had their awards, now the LOTR's crew has theirs, and next year we can give someone else a chance.
Originally posted by MetroplexWhen he was crying for Trinity, that was good acting.......well, i would say atleast better then i expected from the guy😬
Are u serious that Keanu deserves an oscar? His acting is horrible. I think that Both matrixes should have at least been nominated for best visual affects but other than that they shoulnt be nominated for anything.
I won't argue Best Actor, that's completely subjective, and dependent on what movie you're watching. Lawrence Fishborne could be a candidate too, or Grace that place the Oracle...what about the guy who played the Architect? No, best actor is to much of an opinion unless you're a theatrical judge who's subjective enough to cast aside favorites, and see through the difference in the rolls.
Whether you hate LOTR or not, you still have to acknowledge the amount of effort, and the level of artistic direction the movie took. I read the books years ago, and I thoroughly enjoyed the movies. I find it fascinating to see some people just bash another movie, like LOTR, in the same manner that others have bashed the Matrix Trilogy, yet when someone attacks the Matrix they have acted, in the past, as if that person has no right. Again, that's completely subjective, and many of us are a bit bias to personal opinion than technical detail. But, to counter The One Himself when he said:
Alias: Free your mind
I, myself, loath Gone with the Wind, and the God Father Trilogy, but I have enough respect, and background to be able to recognize them as 4 of the greatest movies ever made.
That is the path to free your mind. 😮💨
Originally posted by AliasNeo15
GOD, how many times hav i heard this. Neo is wut he acted. He's supposed to be like he was. He was a great actor when he cried like a girl when Trinity died. that was acting. i didnt think he could pull it off😂
That was the scene when most of my friends finally realized how BAD of an actor he is. I could have fake cried better than that. Although I did like the movies (a little disappointed with part 3), I would never in my life call Reeves a good actor. Any body can say, "No," "What if I can't, what happens if I fail," and "Bullshit."
Originally posted by Metamorphisis
[b]AlphaNeo's not a great actor, huh? So going from laid back surfer-boy in Bill & Ted's Excellent adventure, to a young vigilante gang member opposite Keifer Sutherland in Brotherhood of Justice, to the preppy uptight FBI agent turned surfer opposite Patric Swazye in Point Break, to a strung out information smuggler in Johnny Mnemonic, to the dazed Thomas Anderson in Matrix 1, then the more confident and self aware Neo in Matrix 3, and ending as a young doctor who makes house calls and has a slightly grotesque interest in women more than twice his age in Something's got to give opposite Jack Nicholson does not show a range of ability?
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*cuagh* ahem...........................................................BURN!!!! 😆 damn good post man ✅
Originally posted by Metamorphisis
I won't argue Best Actor, that's completely subjective, and dependent on what movie you're watching. Lawrence Fishborne could be a candidate too, or Grace that place the Oracle...what about the guy who played the Architect? No, best actor is to much of an opinion unless you're a theatrical judge who's subjective enough to cast aside favorites, and see through the difference in the rolls.Whether you hate LOTR or not, you still have to acknowledge the amount of effort, and the level of artistic direction the movie took. I read the books years ago, and I thoroughly enjoyed the movies. I find it fascinating to see some people just bash another movie, like LOTR, in the same manner that others have bashed the Matrix Trilogy, yet when someone attacks the Matrix they have acted, in the past, as if that person has no right. Again, that's completely subjective, and many of us are a bit bias to personal opinion than technical detail. But, to counter [b]The One Himself
when he said:Your mind is not free if you cannot accept the things that you cannot change, the differences we have, or the variety of cultural, artistic, and political tastes.
I, myself, loath Gone with the Wind, and the God Father Trilogy, but I have enough respect, and background to be able to recognize them as 4 of the greatest movies ever made.
That is the path to free your mind. 😮💨 [/B]
? Just pick up a single quote and forget all the things that someone put before in this forum is not the right way to counter his or her ideas. Look: I always respected all the opinions and differences (U can ask anyone here) and I just said to Alias give a chance to the LOTR trilogy without any prejudice. I consider myself a hard matrix fan but I cannot come here and just say: Lord of the Rings is crap..cause it's not! That is the point: Watch the movie to have elements to hate it or like it. On the other hand, I liked Revolutions, and I think it deserved at least a nomination for SFX.
So you see? I'm not here to change Alias or anyone else mind with my posts.
When U said:
"But, to counter The One Himself when he said:
Alias: Free your mind
Your mind is not free if you cannot accept the things that you cannot change, the differences we have, or the variety of cultural, artistic, and political tastes."
That applies perfectly to you...It seems to me that u thought I was trashing Matrix (or even AliasNeo post) or something...So you felt the need to counter immediately my post. I ask: Is your mind free?
Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Not even the special effects deserved to be nominated for an award because even that had no particular direction, style or purpose in trying to enhance the two crap sequels (I try and believe they were never made in the first place)
Special effects are not nominated by the direction of the movie or anything like that, they are nominated solely on the technical side, what, if anything, their impact was on the industry (creating new technologies, enhancing said technologies, etc). If nothing else, you cannot say, if you know anything about the work that went into the movies at all, that the special effects didn't deserve to win. The variations of Bullet Time, the advanced developement of the CGI for the Smiths, the Twins, and the highway truck wreck, and even the highway sequence itself have all been awknowledged by the industry for paving the way in special effects mastery, and almost all of the different aspects helped advance the industry as a whole.
If you didn't like the movies, I'm sorry, but being insulting and opinionated without anything to support your ideas is weak. I'm not going to argue opinion, or try to convince you that the movies are the greatest on the planet - you get from them what you put into them - but your post was unfounded as it appears you think the movie's storyline and artistic direction are the only thing judged.