Yes, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, because I share my views with my family and friends too. All I'm saying is that you can't really say that nobody respected Clinton based on talking to people you know from real life, for that very reason. Or that everybody respected him, for that matter.
Originally posted by BackFire
And this is somehow Clintons fault, that he's getting press for a sergery? Yeah, I'm sure he's just calling all the newspapers and TV sations telling them all what's going on. I'm sure he's begging for press after all the negative press he got during his presidency when he got a blow job from some fat girl. What are you doing watching the news if you want to hear actual news? News stations are crap, you should know this. They're never goign to cover anything of any importance. If you don't like what they're covering on the news, don't watch it.And how is he acting like he's still president? By getting press of his heart sergery? By giving his opinions on topics that people ASK him about? Like him or not, he is still a famous, and important person for alot of people, no different than any other celebrity.
He was a fine president, he provided good economy, lots of jobs, he was charasmatic and a fine public speaker. People liked him the world over, he wasn't the ogre that Bush is seen as by other countries. It's no coincidence that there weren't many huge problems when Clinton was around. The rest of the world respected him and liked him. Which is more then can be said about our current president.
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Originally posted by Darth Revan
Are you kidding me? He won by a landslide! And yet, you're telling me NOBODY respected him... To me, at least, he commanded respect. He was a great speaker, and especially compared to the president we have now.Err... reality check? People in other countries STILL laugh at us! 🙄 The reason you don't know anybody who respected him is simply because everybody you've known shared your political views. Almost everybody I know thought he was a great (for a politician at least😉) president... Because my friends all happen to share my political views. It's amazing how disillusioned you can get by talking to the same people all the time.
And he was not bad for the military. Just because he wasn't a warmonger doesn't mean he was destroying the military... I saw a bumper sticker somewhere, "Bush can't lose with Clinton's military". True that.
Clinton's Military? .... You mean the Republican controlled Congress' Military from Regan's Days.... we had an army twice as large just waiting to push the Iraq's back the first time... because we were ready to fight the Soviets up untill 1990... 😑 NO PRESIDENT HAS ANY CONTROL OVER ANY MONEY 😬 CONGRESS DOES!!!!!! .... did you guys attend government class? 😑
Originally posted by Tex
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I already said i liked Clinton but trully he had no say whats so ever on what happened during his Presidency budget and job wise... 😬 i don't know if you remember guys but the Republicans controlled Congress and is therefore responisble for what happened during his terms.... 😬 whetther he likedd it or not.... 😬
No, here is my answer. And trust me, I have argued against far tougher folk then you...
Clinton was the President, that means he was in charge. Those "republicans" had to run stuff by Clinton, and if he agreed it would get done. If he didn't agree they would change stuff around. He still had a huge say in it.
Originally posted by BackFire
No, here is my answer. And trust me, I have argued against far tougher folk then you...Clinton was the President, that means he was in charge. Those "republicans" had to run stuff by Clinton, and if he agreed it would get done. If he didn't agree they would change stuff around. He still had a huge say in it.
He had the Veto... correct. He needed Congres approval to pass any of his own proposals so he had to make concessions with them... thats why he got anything passed. If he vetoed at the time Congress had a 2/3rds republican majority which could easily overturned his veto and if he vetoed he would have hell to pay... and have nothing he wanted to pass EVER.... he was forced at that time to pass what they wanted... and in good faith Congress allowed some of his legislation threw. 😄
Originally posted by BackFire
Yes, yes. But the point is that he still had A say, and a big one. They could vote it, this is true, but he was still in charge and had a heavy influence on their decision.
Actually the Presidents job as always been overrated... he cannot even propose legislation to Congress its self... it is illegal... he has to influence a member to create it for him 🙂 😂 All the things he does on other countries meaning diplomacy has to be approved in the end by Congress 😂 he deploy troops on his own for only 70 days 😂 and Congress can withdraw them after that by cutting funding 😄
Originally posted by BackFire
"he has to influence a member to create it for him"Exactly, and lets face it, Clinton was an extremely persuasive man. He surely used his intelegence and said persuasion to get what he wanted.
Every President has influence over thier own party members... 😐 he was charismatic when dealing with the public but when he had to deal with congrss they said screw you 😄 I always thought he was a good guy except for the adultry thing 😛 but i always knew he had trouble dealing with congress 😂
Originally posted by BackFire
That Charisma surely rubbed off when he would discuss things with congress, he wasn't just charismatic, but a master debater as well. I'm sure he had no problem getting his points across.
sly you have not delt with people with closed ears then 🙂 that 2/3rds hated his gutts so much... thats why he was impeached and nearly stood trial 😂
Originally posted by BackFire
Oh, but I have, many many people on this site would fall under "closed ears". You can still convince them and put up a good argument as to why you believe a certain way.
When someone believes in something It is impossible to convince them otherwise... no matter what a person does... every point you make that proves them wrong the closer they hold true to thier belief 😖