Lucas confirms......sort of

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Funny thing I guess...I have never EVER seen the special edition versions of the OT I have only seen the original versions....maybe thats why Im not so jaded

oh you poor poor thing...the horrors that await you....

maybe I can close my eyes through those parts 🤨

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
I am afraid they wont be pleasant ones either 😖

Some are. Especially if they fix that rancor scene.

just have a mop and bucket ready for when you see jabba's "new and improved" band 😘

😂

Becoming one with the Force is theorized in Ep.3

Obi-Wan actually uses it in Ep.4

Vader/Anakin has not seen it done and is surprised by the vanishing old man.

When he says they've seen the end of Kenobi, he's covering up his surprise.

When Vader tells the Emperor that Obi-Wan can't help Luke, either he doesn't think Obi can or he wants Luke trained so he can turn Luke against the Emperor.

I don't see this being a big problem, but that's just me.....

Originally posted by Cipher
Becoming one with the Force is theorized in Ep.3

Obi-Wan actually uses it in Ep.4

Vader/Anakin has not seen it done and is surprised by the vanishing old man.

When he says they've seen the end of Kenobi, he's covering up his surprise.

When Vader tells the Emperor that Obi-Wan can't help Luke, either he doesn't think Obi can or he wants Luke trained so he can turn Luke against the Emperor.

I don't see this being a big problem, but that's just me.....

Or it could just be that since Ben is the FIRST to do it, he has no clue what abilities Kenobi will have.

Obi-Wan has spent 18 years on Tatooine doing nothing. You don't think he's had a chance to meditate on the issue a little more? He KNOWS he'l be more powerful. Whereas Anakin/Vader believes nothing is more powerful than the dark side. Therefore A/V doesn't believe him. So when he says that about the end of Kenobi, he believes it. Why is it so hard to accept that Vader is WRONG and not lying and not suffering from memory loss. It's all theory until Ben puts it into practice.
Notice Kenobi doesn't materialize until ESB? It took him that long to figure out how to do that. Otherwise I'm sure he would have appeared in Vader's cockpit and saved all those other pilots.

as i said "vader lies to palps about obiwan" is pure speculation.
it cant be argued as if it will roll out that way.

besides, at the time of that conversation luke has already been trained.
there would be no reason for vader to hide this info.
the plan is to turn skywalker regardless.

Good point. Lying was just a theory, anyway.

Originally posted by PVS
as i said "vader lies to palps about obiwan" is pure speculation.
it cant be argued as if it will roll out that way.

besides, at the time of that conversation luke has already been trained.
there would be no reason for vader to hide this info.
the plan is to turn skywalker regardless.

But he's "trained" by Yoda, who the Emperor and Vader believe is dead.

I think this could be a good way of "explaining" the ghost thing. I thing it's a less than stellar explaination, and that's probably why people are upset by it. It could have been something cool, instead it's going to be something mediocre.

Originally posted by zutalurs
Notice Kenobi doesn't materialize until ESB? It took him that long to figure out how to do that. Otherwise I'm sure he would have appeared in Vader's cockpit and saved all those other pilots.

this just in:

in a tragic turn of events, the "force ghost debate" has crashed, slamming into the side of a mountain. no survivors have been found, and are assumed dead.
a prayer vigil will be held by family, friends, and other mourners. more on this story as it developes...

Originally posted by PVS
this just in:

in a tragic turn of events, the "force ghost debate" has crashed, slamming into the side of a mountain. no survivors have been found, and are assumed dead.
a prayer vigil will be held by family, friends, and other mourners. more on this story as it developes...

What does that mean?

kenobi was coaching luke right after he died.
there was no reason for him to appear...and WHERE would he appear?
either outside the ship, or in front of luke, between his legs, which would have
been....disturbing to say the least.

Might've taken a while for him to get his physical act together.......

Wow. He appeared as a voice first and then later as a visual manifestation of himself?
I think if he could have appeared as a "ghost" he would have on the Falcon when Luke was crying into his blue milk.

And what kind of coaching was he giving him?
"Use the Force, Luke"?
Well, no sh*t Ben! Glad to see becoming a Force Spirit was so helpful.

Originally posted by zutalurs

And what kind of coaching was he giving him?
"Use the Force, Luke"?
Well, no sh*t Ben! Glad to see becoming a Force Spirit was so helpful.

as soon as ben interjects,
"the force is strong with this one"

coincidence? i think not
but as i stated in a very sarcastic tone, this debate is off in a dead zone

Cool!

Originally posted by PVS

but as i stated in a very sarcastic tone, this debate is off in a dead zone

Why? Simply because you say so? And why do you say so? Because now you have no argument to stand on?
And here I thought I could actually join in a thread and have a conversation, but PVS HAS to dominate and have the last word.
Is there a thread you don't have the majority of the posts in?

are you finished?

just tell me when you are, and i will explain

Don't waste your fingers typing me an explaination. I'm not gonna read it. I'm done feeding your ego.