Is Ghandi in Hell?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why did you completely avoid these verses and not include them in your retort? I know, because they locate you. God is talking your language now (the intellect that thinks it knows sometthing until iit is put in its place by God).

You make a lot of assumptions. I think in this case, you are delusional.

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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Imperial Samura if you don't want me to reply to your posts any longer just say so. But I think that you are the epitome of foolishness. It really is not your fault. We will continue to pray for you though.

I mean I think that your rationale or logic--not you--is the epitome of foolishness. I am not trying to get personal or to offend you or anyone else.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I mean I think that your rationale or logic--not you--is the epitome of foolishness. I am not trying to get personal or to offend you or anyone else.

Are you apologizing to your self? 😆

Likey...

....schizo.

Originally posted by sonnet
No poor you for not believing and not understanding the nature and greatness of God.

You're so blind...a loving being does not create a place like HEll, a place of eternal torment, for his own children.

"The greatness of God" is a myth...

God created Hell for Satan and his devils. The Bible makes this clear. We, as a function of free will, have a choice between being children of the world or children of God. When we choose to be children of the world, we are subserviant to Satan whether we know it or not. When we die we go to our masters. If you choose to be a child of God and co-heir in Christ we choose heaven.

Originally posted by Nellinator
God created Hell for Satan and his devils. The Bible makes this clear. We, as a function of free will, have a choice between being children of the world or children of God. When we choose to be children of the world, we are subserviant to Satan whether we know it or not. When we die we go to our masters. If you choose to be a child of God and co-heir in Christ we choose heaven.

Regardless, the facts of your mythology are there:

1) Hell is a place of Eternal torment, which God created

2) Anyone who is disobedient to God, goes there...human OR angel...

3) Human Beings and Angels are BOTH HIS CHILDREN....so he sends both there....

4) You cannot choose to be a child...God created us all, therefore we are ALL HIS CHILDREN, even Satan is...

5) We do not choose Heaven or Hell, God sends us there depending on what kind of lives we lived. WE don't send ourselves, enough with that excuse, God sends us there according to the Bible...

Originally posted by sonnet
No poor you for not believing and not understanding the nature and greatness of God.

Yes. Poor me for using the mind God gave me. Poor me for living and looking for truth. Poor me for not accepting the words posted on the Internet by a stranger from a old book that was certainly written by men with no proof it was divinely inspired.

Tell me - if God told you to jump of a cliff would you do it? If he told you to lead his chosen people to a land and kill those already dwelling there would you do it? Do you never wonder?

Why did you completely avoid these verses and not include them in your retort? I know, because they locate you. God is talking your language now (the intellect that thinks it knows sometthing until iit is put in its place by God).

No, because the post was long enough as it was. It it was more fun to deal with you claiming that is exactly what God would say to me.

Imperial Samura if you don't want me to reply to your posts any longer just say so. But I think that you are the epitome of foolishness. It really is not your fault. We will continue to pray for you though.

Translation: I don't like what your saying or the points your making, I would prefer not to answer you posts.

I mean I think that your rationale or logic--not you--is the epitome of foolishness. I am not trying to get personal or to offend you or anyone else.

Tell me - God, your God, created this big ol' universe. A universe that pretty much runs rationally and logically and scientifically. Now tell me - why did he do this if he doesn't want people to think rationally and logically and scientifically?

Is it fun for him to make a world where every sign is pointing one way, but in fact the correct path is the opposite? Was it unintentional? Does he simply not care that most everything in his creation shows no sign of him, rather points that he didn't do any of it? Or is it more of the "God likes to test his followers"? I guess I should be thankful if that is the case - he could be treating us all like Job...

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
...Tell me - God, your God, created this big ol' universe. A universe that pretty much runs rationally and logically and scientifically. Now tell me - why did he do this if he doesn't want people to think rationally and logically and scientifically?

Is it fun for him to make a world where every sign is pointing one way, but in fact the correct path is the opposite? Was it unintentional? Does he simply not care that most everything in his creation shows no sign of him, rather points that he didn't do any of it? Or is it more of the "God likes to test his followers"? I guess I should be thankful if that is the case - he could be treating us all like Job...

Uh, Imperial...I already answered that question for you several times.

Ghandi is NOT in hell. I don't care what religion you decide to subscribe to, he isn't there. "Hell" wasn't designed for men like Ghandi.

There's a statue of him at the piers here in San Francisco. And it is one of the most under rated and under visited monuments I've ever been to visit in this country. And one of the few I've seen that aren't dedicated to a man that isn't from this country. I've spent many a night smoking a cigarette and looking at that statue while watching the bay.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Uh, Imperial...I already answered that question for you several times.

I know, but then the faithful say that the word is meant to clear doubts and all that - yet is hasn't rung true yet.

I feel it is a valid question why God would create a universe of rules and laws and logical that we can see, and then get annoyed because it is pointing away from him. You'd think he would, if he really understood things, have tried and made it clearer.

You know, thought "Hmmm, my creation will tend to use their brains and to do so will lead them away from what I want. Oh what to do what to do. Nothing. I'll just give them some unevidenced documents that don't fit in with the science and watch them struggle with it. It's what a loving God would do"

Loving life a father that offers a child a cupcake but every time they go to eat it he smacks them. What point is he trying to make? Cupcakes aren't for eating before dinner.

WHY would Ghandi be in hell?

Who cares what religion he followed, he was one of the greatest human beings to walk this earth.

Any and every single spiritual being would have been very proud of Ghandi and would wonder why more of us weren't like that. Even your so called saviour Jesus.

God only makes men like Ghandi, Luther King, Mandella very very rarely.

Originally posted by fini
WHY would Ghandi be in hell?

Who cares what religion he followed, he was one of the greatest human beings to walk this earth.

Any and every single spiritual being would have been very proud of Ghandi and would wonder why more of us weren't like that. Even your so called saviour Jesus.

God only makes men like Ghandi, Luther King, Mandella very very rarely.

Indeed, indeed.

Originally posted by fini
WHY would Ghandi be in hell?

Who cares what religion he followed, he was one of the greatest human beings to walk this earth.

Any and every single spiritual being would have been very proud of Ghandi and would wonder why more of us weren't like that. Even your so called saviour Jesus.

God only makes men like Ghandi, Luther King, Mandella very very rarely.

I did not say that Ghandi was in Hell. I said that if He does not know Jesus Christ then he is in Hell. What you fail to comprehend is that we are all sinners (by nature). There is not one person past, present, or future who is exempt. Ghandi's good moral deeds mean zero in God's economy of justice. God will let no one boast before Him about making it into His presence on their own merit. You go through His Son Jesus or you do not get in period, case closed.

Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

If you want to get to God then you must be sinless. The only Person Who ever lived a sinless life is Jesus Christ. Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Dr. Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, the Pope, the Apostles, Mary (the earthly mother of Jesus), were all sinners. Not one of these people ever lived a sinless life. They may have been good people but they were still sinners by nature and choice. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Buddha was a sinner, Mohammed was a sinner, Joseph the legal father of Jesus was a sinner. We are all sinners by nature and because we have all chosen to sin at some point in our lives.

Romans 4:2
For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God.

Not even God's friend--Abraham--could boast about being "justified." To be justified means that God has declared you righteous enough to stand in His holy (sinless) presence in Heaven.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I did not say that Ghandi was in Hell. I said that if He does not know Jesus Christ then he is in Hell. What you fail to comprehend is that we are all sinners (by nature). There is not one person past, present, or future who is exempt. Ghandi's good moral deeds mean zero in God's economy of justice. God will let no one boast before Him about making it into His presence on their own merit. You go through His Son Jesus or you do not get in period, case closed.

[B]Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

If you want to get to God then you must be sinless. The only Person Who ever lived a sinless life is Jesus Christ. Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Dr. Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, the Pope, the Apostles, Mary (the earthly mother of Jesus), were all sinners. Not one of these people ever lived a sinless life. They may have been good people but they were still sinners by nature and choice. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Buddha was a sinner, Mohammed was a sinner, Joseph the legal father of Jesus was a sinner. We are all sinners by nature and because we have all chosen to sin at some point in our lives.

Romans 4:2
For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God.

Not even God's friend--Abraham--could boast about being "justified." To be justified means that God has declared you righteous enough to stand in His holy (sinless) presence in Heaven. [/B]

You are completely wrong 👇

Peejayd has confirmed that those people with kind hearts, whether believers or non believers will not go to Hell...for they shall inherit the Kingdom of Heaven...

Blessed are the poor..for they shall inherit the kingdom of heaven the Bible says itself, Ghandi was poor AND kindhearted.....

He is not in Hell, he is in Heaven.

I know you LOVE the idea of innocent people ending up in Hell, but your sick little fantasy is put to rest by many Biblical quotes, many of which Peejayd and Feceman already presented and confirmed.

Nice Try 👇...can you please quit trying to condemn and judge people ? Thanks

JIA What about all those people who never heard about Jesus?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Ghandi's good moral deeds mean zero in God's economy of justice.

And thus the crux of the problem in my eyes.

God will let no one boast before Him about making it into His presence on their own merit. You go through His Son Jesus or you do not get in period, case closed.[/COLOR]

Yes, that is right, God doesn't let people earn anything. Free will be damned. Only if we join what is essentially a glorified fan club will we be saved,

[quote][b]If you want to get to God then you must be sinless. The only Person Who ever lived a sinless life is Jesus Christ. Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Dr. Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, the Pope, the Apostles, Mary (the earthly mother of Jesus), were all sinners. Not one of these people ever lived a sinless life. They may have been good people but they were still sinners by nature and choice. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Buddha was a sinner, Mohammed was a sinner, Joseph the legal father of Jesus was a sinner. We are all sinners by nature and because we have all chosen to sin at some point in our lives.

But we never stop "sinning" - so essentially it is just a get out of jail free card.

For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God.

Yes, God who created us to have free will and lives to live and things to do cares not a jot for what we do with them as long as we believe.

Not even God's friend--Abraham--could boast about being "justified." To be justified means that God has declared you righteous enough to stand in His holy (sinless) presence or morally righteous and good enough to get into Heaven.

Translation: Being justified in this sense is not actually being justified at all. It is another form of justification where God declares you just, regardless of past or intent, and that is all - whatever else you have done doesn't really mean anything.

Because God is justified.

"Worship me or you'll go to Hell" sounds pretty tyrannical to me. Eh, Christianity ain't my kinda religion.

I'm weakining now.........must worship.......must worship............... 😑