Originally posted by fini
Case closed JIA ???Oh yes it is, the case that you refuse to listen to other views. ANyhow I have to give props to the people who brainwashed you sooooooo well.
And what makes us alll sinners btw. What have we done soooo wrong that we are condemned from birth.
Don't worry about what JIA has said. He suffers more then we do, because he believes in those lies.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
You are completely wrong 👇Peejayd has confirmed that those people with kind hearts, whether believers or non believers will not go to Hell...for they shall inherit the Kingdom of Heaven...
[b]Blessed are the poor..for they shall inherit the kingdom of heaven
the Bible says itself, Ghandi was poor AND kindhearted.....He is not in Hell, he is in Heaven.
I know you LOVE the idea of innocent people ending up in Hell, but your sick little fantasy is put to rest by many Biblical quotes, many of which Peejayd and Feceman already presented and confirmed.
Nice Try 👇...can you please quit trying to condemn and judge people ? Thanks [/B]
First, Luke 6:20 says poor and Matthew 5:3 says poor in spirit. Remember the Gospels must be examined collectively to arrive at a complete understanding. Whatever information is not included in one Gospel must be incorporated into the interpretation to get the full account of what was said or done. Second, scholars agree that this is referring to believers not unbelievers. Upon further examination this is apparent. Third, Jesus said it Himself that the words that He speaks are spirit (or spiritual) and life. That means that there is always a spiritual import underlying everything that Jesus said. All of the descriptions here have a deeper, spiritual meaning. Jesus is not even talking about how to be saved in those passages. Jesus could not be referring to how to be saved because salvation from sin comes only by faith in the finished work of Christ. If salvation comes through being broke and kind then Jesus wasted time coming from Heaven to be born of a virgin. He lived for thirty years on this planet then embarked on a three-year ministry in vain. He was spit on, tortured beyond human comprehension and crucified for nothing.
The fact is that Jesus saves people from their sins. Salvation by works and salvation by faith cannot coexist. The Bible overwhelming states that we are saved by faith not on the strength of our own good, moral lifestyles--regardless of how noteworthy they are. All of our righteous acts are like filthy rags to God. Salvation comes only through Christ. I leave you with these words from Jesus' foremost disciple (who actually walked with the Master and heard His gospel message first-hand. If anybody ought to know how to get to Heaven it ought to be those who walked with Jesus) Peter the Apostle.
Acts 4:12
Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Don't worry about what JIA has said. He suffers more then we do, because he believes in those lies.
Originally posted by fini
WHY would Ghandi be in hell?Who cares what religion he followed, he was one of the greatest human beings to walk this earth.
Any and every single spiritual being would have been very proud of Ghandi and would wonder why more of us weren't like that. Even your so called saviour Jesus.
God only makes men like Ghandi, Luther King, Mandella very very rarely.
If these men did not accept Jesus Christ as the only Savior and Son of God and repented for their sins then they are surely in or going to hell. Whether you are rich or a humanitarian or of normal income or declared a saint by the church, it still does not matter.
Originally posted by sonnet
How wrong you are about people like JIA and myself. Our "suffering" is only for being mocked for believing in the Savior, Jesus and to strife to live by the laws of God. But we rejoice every day in the fact that we KNOW the TRUTH and will be with God because we did not lose our faith to the lies of the world.
You have no idea. You should read some of the things he has said about other people. The suffering has gotten on this forum is his fault. However, that is not what I was talking about. I know what it's like to be a Christian. All the happiness is superficial, there isn’t any real happiness.
Originally posted by sonnet
How wrong you are about people like JIA and myself. Our "suffering" is only for being mocked for believing in the Savior, Jesus and to strife to live by the laws of God. But we rejoice every day in the fact that we KNOW the TRUTH and will be with God because we did not lose our faith to the lies of the world.
JIA called me "A child of Satan" and an "Anti-Christ" 😆
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You have no idea. You should read some of the things he has said about other people. The suffering has gotten on this forum is his fault. However, that is not what I was talking about. I know what it's like to be a Christian. All the happiness is superficial, there isn’t any real happiness.
Originally posted by sonnet
Well then I fully understand your choices because it seems that you have never been a real child of God, made free from the lies of Satan. It is easy to say that you are a Christian and because so many Christians do bad things while boldly declaring Christianity, I prefer to call myself a child of God, as He is my heavenly Father. My faith is not a dead religion that requires me to go to church on Sunday and sit there with a holier than though expression on my face. No, it is my daily life and I have real happiness, knowing that I am doing my best in living the kind of life that God requires from me. Maybe you just had a real bad experience with Christianity, I do not know.
Sorry, but you do not know me. You have no idea what I was like all those years ago. It is way too easy to say “you have never been a real child of God”. I was a born again fundamentalist Christian, and you cannot take that away from me, no matter how much you try to rationalize me away.
On the matter of happiness! How can you be happy? You are a sinner at the very core. You cannot do anything to get yourself into heaven, you have to be saved. That is how you think. You don’t realize how wrong you are. Do you have any idea what that kind of thinking can do to a person. Go to a prison, you will be surprised how many of them wear raised as Christians. You don’t know what happiness is because you do not put true value on the connection to God that is inside of you. You are not an evil person; you are an enlightened Buddha, and as long as you put yourself in condemnation you will only know faults happiness.
Originally posted by fini
JESUS IS NOT THE ONLY SAVIOUR OF GODHOW LONG WILL IT TAKE YOU ALL TO GET THAT INTO YOU BRANWASHED LITTLE BRAINS!!!!!?????
I leave you with these words from Jesus' foremost disciple (who actually walked with the Master and heard His gospel message first-hand) If anybody ought to know how to get to Heaven it ought to be those who walked with Jesus. Peter the Apostle walked with Jesus.
Acts 4:12
Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
There is no other Name....
There is no other Name....
There is no other Name....
I did not say this the Apostle Peter (who personally walked with Jesus) said this. Did you walk with Jesus? So then why should I believe you or listen to you fini?
There is no other Name....
Now either Peter the Apostle is senile or this statement is true.
There...is...no...other...Name...under Heaven given among men by which we must be saved . This includes but is not limited to my name, your name, Allah (the moon god), Buddha, Mohammed, Confucious, Joseph Smith, Ghandi, the Pope, Mary, Dr. King, and anyone else that wants to get in on the action.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveThe Acts of the Apostles (Greek Praxeis Apostolon) is a book of the Bible, which now stands fifth in the New Testament. It is commonly referred to as simply Acts.
Luke the physician wrote the Book of Acts.
Acts tells the story of the Early Christian church, with particular emphasis on the ministry of the Twelve Apostles and of Paul of Tarsus. The early chapters, set in Jerusalem, discuss Jesus's Resurrection, his Ascension, the Day of Pentecost, and the start of the Twelve Apostles' ministry. The remainder of Acts details Paul's conversion, his ministry, and finally his arrest and imprisonment.
It is almost universally agreed that the author of Acts also wrote the Gospel of Luke. The traditional view is that both the two books were written circa 60 AD by a companion of Paul named Luke — a view which is still held by many theologians. Alternatively, many modern scholars view the books as having been written by an unknown author at a much later date, sometime between 80 and 150 AD.
The language about the ressurection and ascension is a theme of pauls that predates back to Mithra which was popular at that time and was big in Tarsus.