Originally posted by Creshosk
Because Capn A can fly?
You said, "if Cyclops shoots the ground in front of Cap's feet..."
I said, "Cap turns the shield downwards, rides the shockwave, if Cyclops had been expecting that to happen he probably wouldn't have shot at Cap's feet in the first place, so odds are this is going to surprise him.... while Cyke is WTFing, Cap throws the shield...."
Then you said Cyke could dodge it. Some of us have spent the last two pages showing how this is tremendous bullshit.
Because he won't see Capn'a hauling back to throw the sheild. . . Because he's a moron with no fighting ability.You've already shown your bias. you're excused, and may leave now.
This is not bias. This is the difference in skill between Captain America and Cyclops. If I were to take your route and go for the low blow, I'd say you've spent these pages arguing against Cap because you hate how he, Wolverine, and Spider Man are in all the threads and removing valuable space from your favorites like Dazzler and Squirrel Girl.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Plenty, go back and read some more comics. . his visor is attuned to his . . blah blah go read the ****ing comic books.
Since you guys have rightfully abandoned your full blast argument, which was asinine in itself, let me address this Cyke using his regular blasts. First off, Piedmon is right, if Cyke wants to adjust his shot's power or magnitude, he needs to adjust his visor. How many times have we seen him shoot while touching his visor?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Vertical height is adjusted by the visor. Horizontal width isn't. Why is he adjusting anything by the way? Shooting doesn't require touching the visor.
Since you guys have rightfully abandoned your full blast argument, which was asinine in itself, let me address this Cyke using his regular blasts. First off, Piedmon is right, if Cyke wants to adjust his shot's power or magnitude, he needs to adjust his visor. How many times have we seen him shoot while touching his visor? In fact, in order to use a really good and effectively powered blast, he has to take his visor off first like he did against that Sentinel controlled by Danger. He also does it here in Onslaught. Now are you saying he did this because he wanted people to see his lovely eyes? Gimme a break:
Originally posted by PiedmonThe sockwave is treaveling AWAY from Cyclops remember?
You said, "if Cyclops shoots the ground in front of Cap's feet..."I said, "Cap turns the shield downwards, rides the shockwave, if Cyclops had been expecting that to happen he probably wouldn't have shot at Cap's feet in the first place, so odds are this is going to surprise him.... while Cyke is WTFing, Cap throws the shield...."
Originally posted by PiedmonNo, you've been showing us Cap'n throwing his sheild and saying that Cyclops would be a moron and not dodge it. THAT is bullshit.
Then you said Cyke could dodge it. Some of us have spent the last two pages showing how this is tremendous bullshit.
Originally posted by PiedmonSure as hell is.
This is not bias.
"Cap throws his sheild game over"
"Cap never misses he's a living legend."
"Cap throws his sheild faster than machine gun fire or lasers."
BI-ASS
I'll come back to this thread tomorrow when you guys aren't ignoring all the scans, take your best arguments, reiterate what I argued and proved with my scans (I can't believe people are saying a full powered blast would work... I posted those scans not an hour ago!!!!) and shoot your ridiculous arguments down. This has turned into such a fast replying thread, that even the last three responses of mine complete with scans have been ignored. Peace and good night!
Originally posted by Creshosk
The sockwave is treaveling AWAY from Cyclops remember?
Says who? I assume it's a general omnidirectional blast. Cyke can't shape the force
No, you've been showing us Cap'n throwing his sheild and saying that Cyclops would be a moron and not dodge it. THAT is bullshit.Sure as hell is.
"Cap throws his sheild game over"
"Cap never misses he's a living legend."
"Cap throws his sheild faster than machine gun fire or lasers."BI-ASS
He doesn't throw it FASTER. This is your problem. You're thinking faster = better. You can be untrained, have a pistol, and still miss a target that a bushman with his boomerang could take out easily. It comes down to the skill of the firer, not the speed of the projectile.
Get THIS--dodging Captain America's shield? That's not very ****ing easy! Cyclops could be a master acrobat (and I don't think he is, just a good one), and I'd still say Cap's more likely to hit him than not.
Originally posted by PiedmonSpeaking of tremendous bullshit. If Cyclops aims at soft ground shockwaves would be minimal and they would send him backwards not forwards. Captain America cannot see throught the shield and somehow anticipate Cyclops action so why would he turn down the shield. The ground would collapse and yet Cap miraculously goes from crouching on falling ground to standing and throwing his shield.
You said, "if Cyclops shoots the ground in front of Cap's feet..."I said, "Cap turns the shield downwards, rides the shockwave, if Cyclops had been expecting that to happen he probably wouldn't have shot at Cap's feet in the first place, so odds are this is going to surprise him.... while Cyke is WTFing, Cap throws the shield...."
Then you said Cyke could dodge it. Some of us have spent the last two pages showing how this is tremendous bullshit.
Originally posted by Creshosk
And it's going to because despite seeing Capn A pulling back to throw it he's going to stand there going."lok @ teh prity brde, duuh *drools*"
Did you even read the sentence? I said 'tagged', as in, not meaning if Cap throws the shield, but if the shield has already been thrown. If it hits Cyke.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'll come back to this thread tomorrow when you guys aren't ignoring all the scans, take your best arguments, reiterate what I argued and proved with my scans (I can't believe people are saying a full powered blast would work... I posted those scans not an hour ago!!!!) and shoot your ridiculous arguments down. This has turned into such a fast replying thread, that even the last three responses of mine complete with scans have been ignored. Peace and good night!
Agreed. This is silly. We've pretty much shown why Cyclops's chances are as good as nil. If you guys won't listen to us past this point, then more fool you. Good night.
Originally posted by PiedmonOmni directional?
Says who? I assume it's a general omnidirectional blast. Cyke can't shape the force
THIS ISN"T HAVOK!
Originally posted by PiedmonThen how is it going to hit him when cyclops can SEE him getting ready to throw it?
He doesn't throw it FASTER.
Why the hell doesn't he shoot NOW?
Originally posted by PiedmonFaster hits first. So yeah, faster=better.
This is your problem. You're thinking faster = better.
Originally posted by PiedmonYeah, because Cyclops IS untrained. . . and he's a moron too.
You can be untrained, have a pistol, and still miss a target that a bushman with his boomerang could take out easily. It comes down to the skill of the firer, not the speed of the projectile.
Originally posted by PiedmonCyclops isn't blind, nor is he a moron.
Get THIS--dodging Captain America's shield? That's not very ****ing easy!
Originally posted by PiedmonBecause he's a moron? WHY? WHY is it so damn hard to be able to dodge lasers, AND dodge machine gun fire, but NOT dodge something that comes out faster?
Cyclops could be a master acrobat (and I don't think he is, just a good one), and I'd still say Cap's more likely to hit him than not.
Originally posted by PiedmonCap is peaking over the edge of his shield the whole time? He'll have the top of his skull removed. Captain America uses the Cap force and peaks at precisely the right moment?
CAP IS PEAKING OVER THE EDGE OF HIS GODDAMN SHIELD. If Cyke starts to look upwards, Cap will notice before he completes the movement because he's a master martial artist who's expert in reading his opponent's moves, and he will duck under before Cyke can hit him!