Originally posted by Creshosk
Actually he's going off of the assumption that ~800 lbsd is peak human, and Cyclops being very well conditioned is a little bit less than peak human.
Man. It's still hard having you on my side and actually understanding what I'm saying, Cresh.
But it's good. I like it. Keep it up, bro. 💃
Originally posted by PiedmonNo, you are overrating him.
You are SERIOUSLY underrating Cap.
Originally posted by Piedmonand that doesn't matter, You are throwing the sheild, you are pulling back to put the force in it to give it a good heave, and you get blasted. Zakt.
He is one of, if not THE, world's best fighter. You can be a master in your own right--like Cyclops--and still be a joke to Cap.
Originally posted by PiedmonI'm saying his eyebeams are fast as lasers.. .
And are you trying to say Cyclops is as fast as a laser? Are you?
and YOU said he dodges lasers and machine gun fire. . . those were YOUR statements before.
Remember?
Cyclops isn't a moron.
Originally posted by PiedmonSo he's going to fight the optic blast? You can be a living legend and become a dead legend.
You are SERIOUSLY underrating Cap. He is one of, if not THE, world's best fighter. You can be a master in your own right--like Cyclops--and still be a joke to Cap.And are you trying to say Cyclops is as fast as a laser? Are you?
Originally posted by Creshosk
No, you are overrating him.and that doesn't matter, You are throwing the sheild, you are pulling back to put the force in it to give it a good heave, and you get blasted. Zakt.
Do you remember the scenario we this came out of? Cap's already above the beam, in the air, Cyclops is surprised, he looks up, the shield is coming right down at him....
I'm saying his eyebeams are fast as lasers.. .and YOU said he dodges lasers and machine gun fire. . . those were YOUR statements before.
Remember?
Cyclops isn't a moron.
No, no, you're sabatoging your own arguement. How fast is Cyclops supposed to be? He sure as hell isn't peak human fast. He can't alter the trajectory of the shield, so it doesn't matter if he fires it or not. And in this scenario, his eyes will be instinctively drawn to the shield for just an instant--an instant too late, the fight will be over.
That's the way the human brain works, whether it's a retarded brain or a normal brain. If Cyclops can evade the shield, he can shoot Cap out of the air on the rebound, and he'll win. But 9/10 times, the shield hits, because CYCLOPS ISN'T SUPERHUMANLY FAST.
Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5Tell that to sinister.
His Optic Blast arent all powerful you know, Its not like they kill everything in one hit.
Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5Yeah, yeah he is he can hit something the size of a dime at a good 30, 40 feet. . .
Also its not like Scott is so freakin accurate.
Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5If he gets to him, and if he lands the punch and of course he's going to do this cause Cyclops is just going to satand there like a inebriated monkey.
But it is true that Cap will take him out in one punch.
Originally posted by PiedmonRefresh me on your scenario, you know the one you weighted in Cap's favour, where he still ended up a sitting duck.
Do you remember the scenario we this came out of? Cap's already above the beam, in the air, Cyclops is surprised, he looks up, the shield is coming right down at him....No, no, you're sabatoging your own arguement. How fast is Cyclops supposed to be? He sure as hell isn't peak human fast. He can't alter the trajectory of the shield, so it doesn't matter if he fires it or not. And in this scenario, his eyes will be instinctively drawn to the shield for just an instant--an instant too late, the fight will be over.
That's the way the human brain works, whether it's a retarded brain or a normal brain. If Cyclops can evade the shield, he can shoot Cap out of the air on the rebound, and he'll win. But 9/10 times, the shield hits, because CYCLOPS ISN'T SUPERHUMANLY FAST.
Originally posted by PiedmonBecause Capn A can fly?
Do you remember the scenario we this came out of? Cap's already above the beam, in the air, Cyclops is surprised, he looks up, the shield is coming right down at him....
Originally posted by PiedmonBecause he won't see Capn'a hauling back to throw the sheild. . . Because he's a moron with no fighting ability.
No, no, you're sabatoging your own arguement. How fast is Cyclops supposed to be? He sure as hell isn't peak human fast. He can't alter the trajectory of the shield, so it doesn't matter if he fires it or not. And in this scenario, his eyes will be instinctively drawn to the shield for just an instant--an instant too late, the fight will be over.
You've already shown your bias. you're excused, and may leave now.
Cap isn't just stronger than Cyclops. I've got news for you: he's faster, too. That's what PEAK HUMAN IN ALL AREAS means. If Cap gets within arm's reach, and is holding off the blast with his shield, then Cyke's proper ****ed. He can't move nearly quick enough to do anything before Cap knocks him silly.
Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
His Optic Blast arent all powerful you know, Its not like they kill everything in one hit. Also its not like Scott is so freakin accurate. But it is true that Cap will take him out in one punch.
Oh, man. You didn't just say that I hope.
Someone post that scan of Cyke totally destroying the hell out of that Sentinel from Astonishing please?
Haha....Cyke not accurate...that's good, man. You should take that act on stage.
To paraphrase Cresh: "Cyclops can shoot the eye out of a dime".
Or something like that.
Anyway, he's accurate as hell. It's not like he's poining a gun. It's in his freakin eyes, man. Everywhere he looks, he hits.
Since you guys have rightfully abandoned your full blast argument, which was asinine in itself, let me address this Cyke using his regular blasts. First off, Piedmon is right, if Cyke wants to adjust his shot's power or magnitude, he needs to adjust his visor. How many times have we seen him shoot while touching his visor? In fact, in order to use a really good and effectively powered blast, he has to take his visor off first like he did against that Sentinel controlled by Danger. He also does it here in Onslaught. Now are you saying he did this because he wanted people to see his lovely eyes? Gimme a break:
Originally posted by PiedmonHe isn't faster than optic blasts. If he's standing and walking with the shield, his legs are blasted off.
Cap isn't just stronger than Cyclops. I've got news for you: he's faster, too. That's what PEAK HUMAN IN ALL AREAS means. If Cap gets within arm's reach, and is holding off the blast with his shield, then Cyke's proper ****ed. He can't move nearly quick enough to do anything before Cap knocks him silly.
Originally posted by PiedmonOh right, because Cyclops is a moron who won't fight back other than blast at the sheild and only the sheild.
Cap isn't just stronger than Cyclops. I've got news for you: he's faster, too. That's what PEAK HUMAN IN ALL AREAS means. If Cap gets within arm's reach, and is holding off the blast with his shield, then Cyke's proper ****ed. He can't move nearly quick enough to do anything before Cap knocks him silly.
Next, your amazing strategy of shooting the ground. Wow. Since Cap apparently can't jump anymore, Cap is screwed.
Doing this will give Cap the chance to leap in the air, chuck his shield, let it bounce around five times and clonk Cyke in the back of the head. People have been getting clonked by that thing for decades. You still have not posted anybody being able to get a bead on the thing in flight. In fact, let me do you a favor and post this scan to show you somebody can get a bead on the thing. Oh... none of the Avengers can, only Thor... God of Thunder:
And finally... what exactly are you comparing Cyclops here to? He's a guy with the power to shoot concussive force beams out his damn eyes. Apparently, he doesn't miss much. What does it matter to Cap? If he can't be incinerated since it is just force, and Cap's shield dampens and absorbs force... what's the point as long as Cap blocks it and/or evades it? Cap has been defending against a lot worse than Cyke's blasts in far more unbalanced battles than this. Cap would end this in the first shot and angle his shield to bounce it back at Cyke to hit his damn feet like Danger does here: