Originally posted by brainchild81I don't know about that.. when vector tried to blast cap the center of the beams were displaced by the shield and it didn't even touch cap.. I imagine the same thing would happen here..
Then Cap is setting himself up to get mega optic kneecapped(aka legs blown the f**k off🙂).
Originally posted by brainchild81cap wouldnt do that....and thats a bad example...because that still blocks cyclops optic sweep special in the game....
Nah son. When Cyke see's Cap doing that stuff he's just gonna quickly switch aim & take the knees out. Cap won't see it coming because the shield's in his face while he blocks. It would be too quick for Cap to stop it.
* who said about blasting the Cap's shield? Cyke knows how durable Cap's shield is, and he is not that stupid to blast the shield...
* the fact of the matter is that the shield cannot cover Cap's entire body, and in one way or the other, Cap would be hit by the blast... the shield may stand on its ground but Cap will be blown away, that's for sure...
* Cyke's spatial awareness? garbage? Cyke knows he is against a strategist and he will device a way to defeat Cap in any way possible... he can ricochet his blast in any possible or impossible way to hit Cap... oh, if Cap tries to do the same with his shield, he'll eat the blast...
* it's funny how Cap can block a blast to his knees when the shield is raised to block his head and chest part... surely Cap will go down once he was hit on his knees and legs, even if he can run a mile in a minute... all Cyke's gotta do is look and blast...
* for arguments' sake, Cyke's blasts are also known to pulverize adamantium, a full-powered blast of Cyke can literally blow Cap to the next city or state... the blast even made a crack at Onslaught's armor...
Originally posted by peejaydCykes wouldnt blast the shield, nobody does....cap just blocks it, so it looks like they do
* who said about blasting the Cap's shield? Cyke knows how durable Cap's shield is, and he is not that stupid to blast the shield...* the fact of the matter is that the shield cannot cover Cap's entire body, and in one way or the other, Cap would be hit by the blast... the shield may stand on its ground but Cap will be blown away, that's for sure...
* Cyke's spatial awareness? garbage? Cyke knows he is against a strategist and he will device a way to defeat Cap in any way possible... he can ricochet his blast in any possible or impossible way to hit Cap... oh, if Cap tries to do the same with his shield, he'll eat the blast...
* it's funny how Cap can block a blast to his knees when the shield is raised to block his head and chest part... surely Cap will go down once he was hit on his knees and legs, even if he can run a mile in a minute... all Cyke's gotta do is look and blast...
* for arguments' sake, Cyke's blasts are also known to pulverize adamantium, a full-powered blast of Cyke can literally blow Cap to the next city or state... the blast even made a crack at Onslaught's armor...
it can cover his whole body from a wide ranged, and no the shield wouldnt stand and cap would be affected
how are we un an area with trick shots all of a sudden? i would place this fight in a neutral area...only seems fair right?
people have done this tactic on cap before, and he has successfuly blocked upper and lower body, cap has never been hit with a blast that he saw coming, meaning if you want to hit the cap, you better be FAR behind him
how does it blow cap into the next city with no kinetic energy???onslaughts armor wasnt as durable as caps shield, and it definatley didnt have the kinetic force stealing properties.
Originally posted by King KAM
Cykes wouldnt blast the shield, nobody does....cap just blocks it, so it looks like they do
* where? Cap knows where to block? if he raises his shield, Cyke can blast his legs and knees... if he tries to lower his shield, Cyke will blast his head... 😆
Originally posted by King KAM
it can cover his whole body from a wide ranged, and no the shield wouldnt stand and cap would be affected
Originally posted by Creshosk
* nope... i truly doubt that...
Originally posted by King KAM
how are we un an area with trick shots all of a sudden? i would place this fight in a neutral area...only seems fair right?
* okay...
Originally posted by King KAM
people have done this tactic on cap before, and he has successfuly blocked upper and lower body, cap has never been hit with a blast that he saw coming, meaning if you want to hit the cap, you better be FAR behind him
* Cap is Quicksilver now? 😕
Originally posted by King KAM
how does it blow cap into the next city with no kinetic energy???onslaughts armor wasnt as durable as caps shield, and it definatley didnt have the kinetic force stealing properties.
* depends on how strong Cap is, to cling on his shield... the shield negates the force of the blast but Cap himself cannot... 😉
Originally posted by King KAM
he IS accurate enough to hit cap, but cap more than fast enough to block it.
* yes, he is Pietro Maximoff who drank a super-soldier serum... 😆
Originally posted by peejaydYes Cap would know where to block, considering he would know who he was dealing with and would be paying attention to where cykes is aiming.
* where? Cap knows where to block? if he raises his shield, Cyke can blast his legs and knees... if he tries to lower his shield, Cyke will blast his head... 😆* nope... i truly doubt that...
* okay...
* Cap is Quicksilver now? 😕
* depends on how strong Cap is, to cling on his shield... the shield negates the force of the blast but Cap himself cannot... 😉
* yes, he is Pietro Maximoff who drank a super-soldier serum... 😆
we have already gone over this too many times, Caps shield doesnt need to cover him completeley to protect him from wide blasts, his shield splits the explosion so that the holder is safe from the blast, this is because of the concave design.
he doesnt have to be quicksilver considering he can do it just being himself.
why wouldnt cap be holding the sheild?
Cap blocks multiple lazer beams all the time...multiple gun fire all the time, so why is it that you beleive that cykes blast are so fast he needs to have super-speed to block them??? they arent at the speed of light, or even at the speed of sound....
Originally posted by King KAM
Yes Cap would know where to block, considering he would know who he was dealing with and would be paying attention to where cykes is aiming.
* blocking the blast ain't enough... ever heard of the mega optic blast? and oh, the blast can cover area wide enough to hit Cap's unshielded body... 😉
Originally posted by King KAM
we have already gone over this too many times, Caps shield doesnt need to cover him completeley to protect him from wide blasts, his shield splits the explosion so that the holder is safe from the blast, this is because of the concave design.
* that's because you are stubborn to believe Cyke will blast the shield and not Cap himself... 😉
Originally posted by King KAM
he doesnt have to be quicksilver considering he can do it just being himself.
* i'll just have to sit and think about that... 😂
Originally posted by King KAM
why wouldnt cap be holding the sheild?
* a wide blast can do that... no second thoughts... 😉
Originally posted by King KAM
Cap blocks multiple lazer beams all the time...multiple gun fire all the time, so why is it that you beleive that cykes blast are so fast he needs to have super-speed to block them??? they arent at the speed of light, or even at the speed of sound....
Originally posted by Creshosk
* see this... just see this... 🙄
Originally posted by peejaydyou post all these jokes and such, but the fact is that we have explained to you what the sheild does, and that no matter how wide the blast is, caps sheild protects his whole body because the concave design on the shield splits the blast around him, making the holder of the shield completley safe from the blast.
* blocking the blast ain't enough... ever heard of the mega optic blast? and oh, the blast can cover area wide enough to hit Cap's unshielded body... 😉* that's because you are stubborn to believe Cyke will blast the shield and not Cap himself... 😉
* i'll just have to sit and think about that... 😂
* a wide blast can do that... no second thoughts... 😉
* see this... just see this... 🙄
and no-one has said that cyke will be trying to blast the sheild except for you....
Originally posted by brainchild81
Nah son. When Cyke see's Cap doing that stuff he's just gonna quickly switch aim & take the knees out. Cap won't see it coming because the shield's in his face while he blocks. It would be too quick for Cap to stop it.
you think a guy who can sense shifts in air patterns won't see that coming?!?! 😠 HMPH!
that's a good theory, but again I think the been would be displaced at the center.. cyclops can't really see cap more than cap could see him..
first off.. when cap blocks beams at center mass they are displaced.. he's not getting hit with a simple optic blast.. that's all there is too it,
and anyone who tries to seriously argue that cyk would, or even COULD out strategize captain america is out of their damned minds.. seriously have you even read a cap comic?
and again I wasn't reffering to spatial awareness itself as garbage, but rather the inclination that cyclops has more than cap, who again can sense SHIFTS IN AIR PATTERNS... the guy can sense a shift of incoming volume based on airpatterns... I've never seen ANYTHING that comes close to that from cyklops..
now I've already given plenty of examples of cap blocking things as dangerous or more than an optic blast.. to say well the shield doesn't cover his whole body.. ignores not only TONS of feats in which cap uses the shield to defend his whole body, but the fact that captain america is smart enough to crouch if he needs to....
Originally posted by King KAM
you post all these jokes and such, but the fact is that we have explained to you what the sheild does, and that no matter how wide the blast is, caps sheild protects his whole body because the concave design on the shield splits the blast around him, making the holder of the shield completley safe from the blast.and no-one has said that cyke will be trying to blast the sheild except for you....
* look at this hard-headed Cap-fanboy... you're implying that Cap's shield would be able to split the blast... what kind of notion are you trying to pull? Cyke firing Cap's legs, then the blast splits because of the shield? how can the shield protect Cap's body part not blocked by the shield? sure, you made a point but the flaw is too huge, all you have to do is dump the fanboyism and accept the fact... 🙄
* the fact that you're always reasoning out that the shield will split the blast, is tantamount of saying that Cyke is firing at the shield... which is absolute crap, by the way... Cap tries a "charging star", Cyke blasts Cap's legs... it won't work on the game, yes but in a real fight, Cap will be crippled... 😉
* pull the tricks all you want but as long as there is a body part of Cap unprotected by the shield, Cyke can hit him... 😉
Originally posted by jinzin
first off.. when cap blocks beams at center mass they are displaced.. he's not getting hit with a simple optic blast.. that's all there is too it,
* that is, if Cap can block both his upper and lower extremities simultaneously... 😛
Originally posted by jinzin
and anyone who tries to seriously argue that cyk would, or even COULD out strategize captain america is out of their damned minds.. seriously have you even read a cap comic?
* no one will argue about that, Cap is a better strategist, better melee fighter and a better leader than Cyke, and that's all there is to it... Cyke is a genius with his optic blasts... 😉
Originally posted by jinzin
and again I wasn't reffering to spatial awareness itself as garbage, but rather the inclination that cyclops has more than cap, who again can sense SHIFTS IN AIR PATTERNS... the guy can sense a shift of incoming volume based on airpatterns... I've never seen ANYTHING that comes close to that from cyklops..
* okay, so now that we have not found any real evidence of how fast Cyke's blasts travel, let us take this for consideration that Cap really can sense an incoming blast from Cyke... what good will it do to Cap? Cyke got plenty more options than Cap, got a ranged attack and very accurate... 😉
* consider this example: Cyke fires Cap directly to his head, Cap sensed it and blocked, natural instinct: raises the shield to cover his head, the blasts split and keep Cap safe... however, Cyke never stops firing, and switched immediately to lower his blast, hits Cap's stomach or legs or knees... never thought of that? 🙄
Originally posted by jinzin
now I've already given plenty of examples of cap blocking things as dangerous or more than an optic blast.. to say well the shield doesn't cover his whole body.. ignores not only TONS of feats in which cap uses the shield to defend his whole body, but the fact that captain america is smart enough to crouch if he needs to....
* okay, Cap crouches...
Originally posted by Creshosk
* i can't see how Cap can do anything by crouching rather than covering himself... and since Cap really can't squeeze himself behind the shield, Cyke can shoot those uncovered body parts... leaving Cap beaten... Cyke wins this, 9-9.5/10... with a 0.5-1/10 on Cap rushing close to Cyke and beating him in a hand-to-hand combat... 😉