Science vs Religion

Started by Paxelius17 pages

Who will win ? I won't answer that.

But I will remind you (if you have forgotten) that religion has won on many occasions over science, you've heard about the dark ages right, that was an age where science was suffocating under the thick veil of religious dominiation. It will happen again. But there will always be a renaissance ( I hope !).

religion causes the war, science is used in weapons to defeat the enemy, obliterating those religious fighting in the war for their beliefs it scales up to such a state that they'll start firing megatonne nukes in each others back gardens and cause such damage, it will crack the earth's core and the planet will drift apart, losing it's atmosphere killing everything....
but hey! that'll be ina few centuries methinks 😱

Originally posted by Darth Revan
I am opposed to organized religion, but I'm not opposed to people having their own belief systems. I have nothing against somebody believing what I don't. What bothers me is when they try to push their bullshit on me. Get used to it, I'm not going to convert because of what you say. But I recognize and respect that some people need religion in their lives for whatever reason.

Science will always be more correct than religion, because religion stays the same no matter what new discoveries are made. If we found irrefutable proof that god did not exist, most people would still believe in their religions. If, on the other hand, we found irrefutable proof that god DID exist, science would (eventually) accept this as fact. Science changes over time. Religion does not.

As for who will "win", that's just a stupid question. Both will probably always exist, so it is totally pointless to argue about which will "win".

i do so ****ing agree with u, see i hate ppl trying to get other ppl to believe the same they do is like get over it!! many mormones have knocked my door and start talking bullshit i just close it!!! i dont trey to get anyone in chrsitianity, or try to get other ppl to sujpport the same politics i support, everybody has their ideas

and meki nade, religion cuases war 🤨 that was like 10000000 years ago, now their cuz of territory or oil 🙄

Originally posted by A4E
and meki nade, religion cuases war 🤨 that was like 10000000 years ago, now their cuz of territory or oil 🙄

You do know what's going on in the Middle East, don't you?

The entire Islamic world has been unable to conquer the tiny nation of Israel
ehh an Islamic nation ruled Israel for hundred of years prior to recent history.

the majority of Europe will be muslim in a few decades and most likely the US soon afterwards.
never the US , chrisitanity have a to much hold of things in the States.

And as of Norway many of those second generation immigrants of other religions growing up here do much of the very same thing Norwegian kids do, they stray away form the believes of their ancestors.
In other words they couldnt care less about religion

thats a good way of putting it Meki_Nade

Originally posted by Kosta
"Science without religion is dull, religion without science is pointless"

Science is proof without certainty
Religion is certainty without proof

I personally think that science will edge out all current organized religions until one that makes sense (preferably one that isn't bigoted and self-righteous, as well) emerges.

Re: Science vs Religion

Originally posted by Unholy_Cheese
In the end, who do you think will win?

In the end of what? Humanity? Civilization?

If by the end you mean the END of humanity it won't matter much. Neither will save us from our own destruction.

And as of Norway many of those second generation immigrants of other religions growing up here do much of the very same thing Norwegian kids do, they stray away form the believes of their ancestors.
In other words they couldnt care less about religion

The trend in the UK is that third generation asians are much more likely to feel nationalistic for eg Pakistan and also to respond vehemently to antagonism than their parents. Besides, the assylum seekers entering in their millions have their home ideals fresh in their mind and in terms of numbers they will outnumber all the previous inhabitants very soon; take that city in Sweden that the government there have officially declared as now out of their control and ruled by the muslim gangs.

Originally posted by Lord Soth
Science is proof without certainty

Not really. You're right about the "without certainty" but, but scientists don't normally talk about proof, they talk about evidence.

On an unrelated note, I miss your green text. You should start doing that again.

i agree with gregory nor is very certain, cuz sience is changing every decade.... discovering new things proving old theories were wrong... and well i think 50 years from now (more or less) christian ppl will open their minds, cuz i highly doubt that god made us so that we'll worship him, i think that he wants masses to b funny, and us chrsitans not being so UPTIGHT... accepting that sometimes they're wrong too

Re: Science vs Religion

Originally posted by Unholy_Cheese
In the end, who do you think will win?

My answer? niether will last.

you know what,i cant answer this question you know what my religion and science are best friends. im sikh, and not one scientific fact has proved my religion wrong in anyway. In fact in our prayers written many hundreds of years ago it talks about countless planets and universes.Alot of times sikhism has knnown things before science

sikhism?? never heard of that before

oh.. is an indian religion

Well it was founded in norhtern India by Guru Nanak around the 16th century

Re: Re: Science vs Religion

Originally posted by WindDancer
In the end of what? Humanity? Civilization?

If by the end you mean the END of humanity it won't matter much. Neither will save us from our own destruction.


I mean the end of choice. That when there is only one fate or belief. There isnt separate beliefs (besides in religion there are semi choices like Christan, hindu, Budism ect.)
When either Science or religion gets beaten and proven wrong

^disagree

Some religions (such as Buddhism, which actually isn't a religion at all) don't try to argue with science. A lot of religions never mention science, or have creation myths, but quite a few of them accept science as new discoveries are made.

If by end you mean choice that it comes down to the individual not the masses. Since we all have different choices we can either accept Science or Religion as our truths. But since we are including choice some will chose Science, others will chose Religion, others will chose Both, and a very few will chose neither.

My choice is both for the sake of human intellect. But unfortunally that isn't the case with everyone. Science fanatics don't care for religious arguments and Religous fanatcis don't care for scientific discovery. Sometimes you can sense the arrogance and pride in both sides.

some sort of religion will always prevail