Originally posted by Gregory
Not really. You're right about the "without certainty" but, but scientists don't normally talk about proof, they talk about evidence.On an unrelated note, I miss your green text. You should start doing that again.
Evidence is basically proof
The green thing took too long to type, so I nixed it. I'm fine w/o it, really
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,529910,00.html
Though I don't usually follow any Scandinavian news 😬
HiddenPotential> No one will be surprised. Science has already won. Those few lunatics who won't accept that fact... well, poor them.
And Einstein was an expert on gravity and mechanics and relativity. He wasn't an expert on whether or not God exists. But religious people often draw out his quotes as if that somehow backs up their arguments.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."
Notice the... BLIND??? 😄
He also said "Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism -- how passionately I hate them!"
Religion is like the symbiote in Spiderman, Venom. It will take any form to survive. Being a Christian, it might not be the best example, but it's the truth. Many scientists are Christians, and the best and brightest have devoted their lifetimes to reworking Christianity.
This is a good thing. Christianity, I believe forgot about Jesus' temptations in the desert. You cannot convert people legally unless they wish it. Being born into it is also acceptable, as you can oppose it if you wish. Anyway, to the Science question. I got a good example of my humble view. It's important when going to the toilet to know two things. First, you must push the handle down, and second, you must feel a tighness in your rectum. The how and the why.
The Omega- I love the way you gravitate toward my post as an opportunity to bash me cause your a radical atheist. I am aware.
If anything science has proved the unlikely event that humans would randomly appear from space junk colliding over time, ever again ever (if it were true).
You will contemplate religion for the rest of your life (as you should), get over it.
Originally posted by HiddenPotential
The Omega- I love the way you gravitate toward my post as an opportunity to bash me cause your a radical atheist. I am aware.If anything science has proved the unlikely event that humans would randomly appear from space junk colliding over time, ever again ever (if it were true).
You will contemplate religion for the rest of your life (as you should), get over it.
a) Omega is not a radical
b) I can't understand what ur second line is saying
c) I'm done comtemplating religion. I'm sure she has too.
d) Science will always prevail, relgion offers guidences, so do other things.
religion has nothing to offer me. I'm done with it. I refuse to take part in something where ppl kill in the name of their god. I refuse to believe in something that can't be backed up by hard facts.
Science can adapt. Look back through history. Science is rarely wrong, parts of a scientific law or theory might need some adjustment as new facts are learned. Religion will always have the same beliefs, the same old stories.
Religion isn't the only thing that kills people..... power, greed, justice and so on have done so at various points for good and bad reasons. Still, I think it is impossable to see one or the other going. From the moment the first hominid (or Adam) lit a fire, or notched a bow, we were doing scientific things. Equally so we will probably always have religion, as faith can be important for many, but it also exists to explain things that science is yet to answer. However, religion is just as good at adapting as science, look how different Christianity is from say the ancient ancestor worshipping, it adapts to meet the needs of society (and many want to think our time on earth contributes to something, and it doesn't necessarily end with death, and that things must get better...)
So both will probably be there in the final hour, perhaps very different, but also very much the same....
Originally posted by Agent Elrond
religion has nothing to offer me. I'm done with it. I refuse to take part in something where ppl kill in the name of their god. I refuse to believe in something that can't be backed up by hard facts.Science can adapt. Look back through history. Science is rarely wrong, parts of a scientific law or theory might need some adjustment as new facts are learned. Religion will always have the same beliefs, the same old stories.
Both science and religon are getting better. Science only recently learned to test theories, like the idea that after a certain amount of moving, things suddenly stopped and fell straight down. Religon has the greatest minds in the world seeking to crack the true meaning of the beliefs, and find new ways of telling the stories.
Plus, people can kill in the name of science. Philosophy, the first form of science, was spread out over massive areas. Often based on Aristotle, Socrates, and Plato. They killed others, due to their different beliefs. Humans have a strange desire to kill others who disagree with them, if they have a sharp stick.