Science vs Religion

Yes, Finti, the 10 commandments we still live by. I was talking about we have an advocate w/the Father thru Jesus Christ now. We don't have to sacrifice, now, JESUS paid the price for us all.

Yes, Finti, the 10 commandments we still live by

and jesus paid no price for me

Originally posted by finti
so how come the first one has change from me to trinity

and jesus paid no price for me

Jesus paid the price for everyone, including you!! That is why we can now pray to the Father in Jesus name and ask forgiveness. We can have a direct one on one pray life w/him. There's no priest that have to pure themselves for hours before they go into the temple, there's no sacrifices.

I'm not sure what you are talking about here finti:
so how come the first one has change from me to trinity

Jesus paid the price for everyone, including you!! That is why we can now pray to the Father in Jesus name and ask forgiveness. We can have a direct one on one pray life w/him. There's no priest that have to pure themselves for hours before they go into the temple, there's no sacrifices.

You can believe all you want but please no preaching to us who aint fooled by this fairy tale

He did die for everyone and paid the price for everyone.

😂 😆

That is your choice to believe or not believe. that is your choice.

to be or not to be

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Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
He did die for everyone and paid the price for everyone.

No he didn't. By Chrisitan beliefs, he died for Christians only. Tough shit for everyone else.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
No he didn't. By Chrisitan beliefs, he died for Christians only. Tough shit for everyone else.

there may be some that believe that, but i've not heard that. How could he only die for christians, when we were all sinners at one time in our life?

As a Christian, you are led to belive that those who believe in Christ(CHRISTIANS) are the only ones who are forgiven and accepted into heaven, correct? Not everyone believes in Christ(or, to put it another way, not everyone is Christian), therefore, these people are f*cked.

What does that have to do with the point you were trying to make, by saying that HE didn't die for everyone?? Which in fact in did, it's our CHOICE to chose him or not. He chose us, thats why he died for everyone, but we have the choice to repent of our sins and ask Jesus Christ into our heart. Choice.

Then he DIDN'T die for EVERYONE. He died for CHRISTIANS. You said it yourself. To become saved, you must chose him. Those that don't(people who aren't Christian) are screwed.

You're going around in circles, and you need to find a way out. By that I mean that you are arguing against yourself by proving my point, inadvertently, and need to think before you answer.

No, I am not! He did die for everyone, we have the chose to chose him, he did chose us, DO you chose him? Did you repent of your sins and ask him to be your Lord and savior of your life?? We have the choice

Just out of curiosity, If I remember correctly didn't Jesus die to 'open the gates of heaven'? Does that mean everyone who died before jesus was born and never heard of his teachings were all stuck in purgatory or hell?

You can "choose" him, but surely Jesus or God or whoever must have realized at some point that some people, despite knowing about Christianity, simply won't ever believe in it? Even if they are good people? Like if you're Jewish, you're not going to convert to Christianity just because you know it exists. The logic is totally flawed... Believe it or not, people of other religions are just as adamant as Christians are that their religion is the right one. Ever heard a Muslim talk about Islam? They insist just as much as Christians that their religion is the one true path.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Then he DIDN'T die for EVERYONE. He died for CHRISTIANS. You said it yourself. To become saved, you must chose him. Those that don't(people who aren't Christian) are screwed.

❌ thats not what FE said dude. Jesus died for everyone - for all who have sinned (and that would be everyone). Whether you want to accept that fact is your choice or not. You dont have to believe it, that is entirely up to you.

thats not what FE said dude. Jesus died for everyone - for all who have sinned (and that would be everyone). Whether you want to accept that fact is your choice or not. You dont have to believe it, that is entirely up to you.

Originally posted by Morningstar
❌ thats not what FE said dude. Jesus died for everyone - for all who have sinned (and that would be everyone). Whether you want to accept that fact is your choice or not. You dont have to believe it, that is entirely up to you.

Yes, it is up to me. Let's look at this situation.

Choose Jesus, (which means becoming CHRISTIAN) and be saved, or choose to have evidence of God's existence and wait it out...and eventually end up in hell.

Wow. What a great choice God has presented to me.

Jesus died for Christians, face the facts.