Science vs Religion

Originally posted by The Omega
Ytaker> Are you now saying that science has NOT put forward a theory as to how life arose on Earth?
When I ask for links, I ask for links to sites with a certain amount of credibility. One crackpot Creationist who’s been caught lying countless times doesn’t count. (Have a look here http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/abioprob.html)
Religion is called pride? Pride in WHAT I may ask?

Morningstar> “Hmm to me i dont see it as killing other people for their God becoz those killed had sinned too. ”
So if someone has ”sinned” in your virew, it’s OK to kill them?

“God knew that if the ppl of Israel became involved with the Hittitesm Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites (weird names!) those people would lead the descendants of Israel to worship other Gods.”
What happened to ”God has given us free will”? So it’s okay to kill people to prevent them from deciding NOT to worship the Christian God???

O.k. can you answer my questions on the subject

1. How can particles combine with the brownian motion of water sloshing them about?

2. Somebody said that a comet hit the earth, starting life. How could simple life withstand a hundred kiloton explosion (ignore the mathematics, just think "big explosion)

3. The simplest life is a virus. I suspect that the idea is that the simplest lifeform was simpler still. A Virus can only live of other beings, e.g. a human, dog, hummingbird. How can such a basic life suceed where a virus has failed?

Originally posted by The Omega
Ytaker> Are you now saying that science has NOT put forward a theory as to how life arose on Earth?
When I ask for links, I ask for links to sites with a certain amount of credibility. One crackpot Creationist who’s been caught lying countless times doesn’t count. (Have a look here http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/abioprob.html)
Religion is called pride? Pride in WHAT I may ask?

Morningstar> “Hmm to me i dont see it as killing other people for their God becoz those killed had sinned too. ”
So if someone has ”sinned” in your virew, it’s OK to kill them?

“God knew that if the ppl of Israel became involved with the Hittitesm Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites (weird names!) those people would lead the descendants of Israel to worship other Gods.”
What happened to ”God has given us free will”? So it’s okay to kill people to prevent them from deciding NOT to worship the Christian God???

I'm sorry, that was extrodinarily boring, and my mind could only skim, so you should be able to clear these things up for me

1. How does a group of particles combine with the attacks of brownian motion, dense brownian motion like water?

2. Somebody said that a comet hit the earth, maybe starting life. How could simple life withstand a hundred kiloton explosion (ignore the mathematics, just think "big explosion)

3. The simplest lifeforms we know are viruses. They cannot exist without an outside aid (e.g. a dog, human, cat) and a basic lifeform must be simpler still. How can a simpler creature still (without even the aid of DNA?) manage to reproduce?

Pride in... if you think, arr, I'm a bloody good chap for siding with God, arr arr, I'm the model of faith, arr arr, This is a good partnership arr arr.
Then you are acting on pride. The idea is to be humble in your heart.

Some of those societies wanted to kill all Israelites. That wouldn't have been good for the world. It's not like he's going to kill them to make space, but if they represent a serious threat to the future of Jesus, they have to go.

Originally posted by The Omega
Morningstar> “Hmm to me i dont see it as killing other people for their God becoz those killed had sinned too. ”
So if someone has ”sinned” in your virew, it’s OK to kill them?

“God knew that if the ppl of Israel became involved with the Hittitesm Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites (weird names!) those people would lead the descendants of Israel to worship other Gods.”
What happened to ”God has given us free will”? So it’s okay to kill people to prevent them from deciding NOT to worship the Christian God???

No i dont think its ok to kill people who have sinned. The way i see it, God has made so many sacrifices for us, given us so much and we virtually threw it back in his face. He gave us the world, a place in heaven, sent his ONLY son to die for us, loves us unconditionally, and we've almost said 'thats not good enough, i want more.' Now thats graditude for you. Ok gone off topic point. 🙄

Look at the context all these 'killings' were in. THats all i can say.

Look im not even gonna bother to pretend that i am an expert on the OT coz its really simply obvious that im not. There's a lot of stuff that i havent read in the OT and there's a heap of stuff i dont understand. And thats probably the same as quite a few other people. Im more of a NT kinda person because its more about Jesus' life and stuff. I learn about NT in youth group, BIble study and when im just at home. But i dont tend to read the OT. Now im sure u couldnt really care less what im saying but anyway. You can ask me about Jonah in the OT tho, i actually know stuff about that 🙂

Originally posted by Meki_Nade
religion doesnt cure disease... case solved

...but science kills us too

Can either of you show me in the NT? The law was different in the OT. When Jesus died on the cross for everyone's sins, we are under new law: GRACE So, can anyone find it in the NT?

...but science kills us too

Look im not even gonna bother to pretend that i am an expert on the OT coz its really simply obvious that im not. There's a lot of stuff that i havent read in the OT and there's a heap of stuff i dont understand

How can a simpler creature still (without even the aid of DNA?) manage to reproduce?

well gotta go to work 😠

Originally posted by Unholy_Cheese
In the end, who do you think will win?

Originally posted by finti

yes but at least it tries to make a progress into solving diseases

Originally posted by finti

The answer to that requires knowing something about the chemistry of the prebiotic

Is that any use to me at all?

Originally posted by finti
you were the one raising questions with viruses

And you were the one trying to put foward an answer

And you were the one trying to put foward an answer

Originally posted by finti
actually I did put an answer forward, that you dont know what to do with it is of no concern to me

If you asked "what is 2+2" then it would be far better for you to say 4 than to say "you'll need knowledge of arithmetic for that”. You could even explain the arithmetic, if you had the time. But four would be sufficient

prebiotic cant be easily explained, not as simple as 2+2 anyways.
There are tons of studies on the matter and to simplify it aint easy at all cause it is a bit complex.

Wait... Is this the methane, ammonia, hydrogen and water experiment results? That's absolute bukkake, as there wasn't any methane, or ammonia then. That's been known since the 1970s.

Wait... Is this the methane, ammonia, hydrogen and water experiment results?

What is it then?

Sorry, 1980s. Made of Water, carbon dioxide and nitrogen, some very inert gases.

What is it then?

Yes, but I need some specifictions, so that I know what I'm looking for. Give me a clue or two.

just look up something about from evolution to life

😑

This show is awesome!

I totally need to spread the word about the Finti/Ytaker Pre/Probiotic War! ✅