Batman vs Spiderman

Originally posted by brainchild81
That has never happened and I don't think it will. He's swung @ Spidey w/the claws many times. He's always missed. ALWAYS(In actual fights). Maybe it's something about the idea of getting slashed to death that makes Spidey start dodging better. Also, Wolvie hasn't hit Spidey on a regular basis. In the graveyard fight, Wolvie did nothing until Spidey let him. "I let him tackle me". Secret Wars, Wolvie lunges @ Spidey and misses. Tries to sneak Spidey and gets pimp smacked off panel. Spidey almost always gets more hits in. Wolvie did good in that rooftop scrap, but Spidey didn't approach that battle the way he does when he knows he's fighting Wolvie. You may want to deny this, but it's fact🙂 I've noticed you're still using Scorpy Vs Bats. A crossover. I must again point out that the only time Bats went up against Spidey himself(Not Scorpion), he was unable to hurt Spidey with his Martial Arts and was effortlessly thrown away.

Spiderman always delevers a spidey beating to wolvie. . .who always takes it.

I don't think you understand that shot that didn't happen. . .Wolverine hit him, claws in, had they been out Spidey would be dead. That's the point of the altered picture.

Or do you deny that if Wolverine hits spiderman with his claws, spiderman is in big trouble?

"If he had attacked with his claws out spidey would have dodged-*"

That's tangenting. Wolverine hit spiderman, that's a given. If his claws had been out he would have been dead.

Spiderman let wolverine hit him in that one, but what about the other times? The roof top or the training session?

Nope, spiderman did not "let" wolverine hit him in the training session, that's why he freaked when he got hit.

If Wolvie hits Spidey w/the Claws. Spidey is in big trouble. I deny nothing. Wolverine has thus far been unable to touch Spidey with the claws outside of that training session. He has tried before. Those are facts. It was a training session and it can be reasoned that since Spidey can override the Spidey sense reaction, he chose to. He figured Wolvie'd never intentionally stab him during a training session. Wolvie's never been able to stab Spidey before and was most likely expecting Spidey to move out of the way. That's possibly why Wolvie said it was a mistake. Spidey didn't expect Wolvie to actually stab him. That's why he freaked.

Originally posted by brainchild81
If Wolvie hits Spidey w/the Claws. Spidey is in big trouble. I deny nothing. Wolverine has thus far been unable to touch Spidey with the claws outside of that training session. He has tried before. Those are facts. It was a training session and it can be reasoned that since Spidey can override the Spidey sense reaction, he chose to. He figured Wolvie'd never intentionally stab him during a training session. Wolvie's never been able to stab Spidey before and was most likely expecting Spidey to move out of the way. That's possibly why Wolvie said it was a mistake. Spidey didn't expect Wolvie to actually stab him. That's why he freaked.

However I'm still wondering how Spiderman would have dodged Wolverine's punch in the graveyard, near the end of the fight when Wolverine lied to Spidey. . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's the most decent explination I've gotten for that.

Originally posted by Creshosk
However I'm still wondering how Spiderman would have dodged Wolverine's punch in the graveyard, near the end of the fight when Wolverine lied to Spidey. . .

You mean the "all I gotta do is pop my claws up your throat" attack or the punch following the tackle Spidey let him get?

batman rocks my socks!!
and the batmobile....great for picking up chicks.

Originally posted by jinzin
and I have yet to see someone come up with a good reason for why bat's can't just smack spidey around with his high pitch sonic frequincy emiter.....maybe it's cause you guys don't have one......

Originally posted by brainchild81
That has never happened and I don't think it will. He's swung @ Spidey w/the claws many times. He's always missed. ALWAYS(In actual fights). Maybe it's something about the idea of getting slashed to death that makes Spidey start dodging better. Also, Wolvie hasn't hit Spidey on a regular basis. In the graveyard fight, Wolvie did nothing until Spidey let him. "I let him tackle me". Secret Wars, Wolvie lunges @ Spidey and misses. Tries to sneak Spidey and gets pimp smacked off panel. Spidey almost always gets more hits in. Wolvie did good in that rooftop scrap, but Spidey didn't approach that battle the way he does when he knows he's fighting Wolvie. You may want to deny this, but it's fact🙂 I've noticed you're still using Scorpy Vs Bats. A crossover. I must again point out that the only time Bats went up against Spidey himself(Not Scorpion), he was unable to hurt Spidey with his Martial Arts and was effortlessly thrown away.

batman noncholantly used one hand to bend spidey's wrist and spidey used both arms to throw bats...batman spun in mid air and landed on his feet...that's spidey's great victory?????

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but since you're playing into my game......batman beat up on carnage without the help of sonics or venom...you may want to say "oh but he was sooooo terribly distracted" as if that matters....cause we all know having sonic weapons, and the help of venom bashing away at you after you've already been weakened is sooooo much less threatening than joker saying he'll blow up a city.....

immediate threat and physical damage>>>>>>> threat

as far as the wolvie thing goes....wolverine's hit him in 100% of their one on one's yet he doesn't do it consistantly in your opinion?

pfffft.....spiderman said he let wolverine tackle him to draw him in close enough to try and snap his neck...guess why....cause he ran out of options...he was getting tired and didn't know what else to do......"he just keeps coming"....to bad the entirety of your argument vs. the bat gadgets is that spidermans spidersense avoids everything that presents a danger...but neglect the fact that wolverine plugged him DESPITE his spider sense eh?

Originally posted by brainchild81
If Wolvie hits Spidey w/the Claws. Spidey is in big trouble. I deny nothing. Wolverine has thus far been unable to touch Spidey with the claws outside of that training session. He has tried before. Those are facts. It was a training session and it can be reasoned that since Spidey can override the Spidey sense reaction, he chose to. He figured Wolvie'd never intentionally stab him during a training session. Wolvie's never been able to stab Spidey before and was most likely expecting Spidey to move out of the way. That's possibly why Wolvie said it was a mistake. Spidey didn't expect Wolvie to actually stab him. That's why he freaked.

let me ask you something....how many senses can you simply TURN OFF?

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sight? no....hearing? ummm no....smell? nu-uh......touch?...that's a no.....taste?....NADA!

yet spidey can turn off his spider SENSE?

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either that orrrrrrrr he can't dodge everything....

Originally posted by brainchild81
Every time you mention this I say "How does this work? Post scans of him using this please. Doesn't Bats have to protect himself against this too?" You never answer 🙁

so your whole defense against that strategy is the hope that he doesn't have one...the same one he used on several occasions to destroy man-bats radar sense and kick the crippity crap out of him?

puh-lease!

he has it...spidey can't avoid...the best you could do is deny that he has it (same thing went down with his spectra armor suit, same thing happened with the batwing and batmobile, same thing happened with the tazor suit failsafe, same thing happened with the mother box)....so I don't blame you...but really.....pfffft.

Originally posted by jinzin
batman noncholantly used one hand to bend spidey's wrist and spidey used both arms to throw bats...batman spun in mid air and landed on his feet...that's spidey's great victory?????

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Originally posted by jinzin
but since you're playing into my game......batman beat up on carnage without the help of sonics or venom...you may want to say "oh but he was sooooo terribly distracted" as if that matters....cause we all know having sonic weapons, and the help of venom bashing away at you after you've already been weakened is sooooo much less threatening than joker saying he'll blow up a city.....

immediate threat and physical damage>>>>>>> threat

Originally posted by jinzin
as far as the wolvie thing goes....wolverine's hit him in 100% of their one on one's yet he doesn't do it consistantly in your opinion?

pfffft.....spiderman said he let wolverine tackle him to draw him in close enough to try and snap his neck...guess why....cause he ran out of options...he was getting tired and didn't know what else to do......"he just keeps coming"....to bad the entirety of your argument vs. the bat gadgets is that spidermans spidersense avoids everything that presents a danger...but neglect the fact that wolverine plugged him DESPITE his spider sense eh?

Originally posted by brainchild81
You mean when Darkseid was punching as hard as he possibly could and trying to kill Batman? Waitaminute..he WASN'T punching as hard as he possibly could and trying to kill Batman. Come on man. That's lame.

I already admited that he wasn't hitting as hard as possible...that however doesn't negate the fact that he's hitting harder than spiderman is capable of......but as anyone can clearly see darksied is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo overwhelmingly concerned for batman's safety.........🙄

you will notice....batman pummled so hard into the ground that it craters sending chunks of rock are assending into the air...notice darksieds speed in his punch...being a blur and all.....

Originally posted by jinzin
so your whole defense against that strategy is the hope that he doesn't have one...the same one he used on several occasions to destroy man-bats radar sense and kick the crippity crap out of him?

puh-lease!

he has it...spidey can't avoid...the best you could do is deny that he has it (same thing went down with his spectra armor suit, same thing happened with the batwing and batmobile, same thing happened with the tazor suit failsafe, same thing happened with the mother box)....so I don't blame you...but really.....pfffft.

you will notice.....batman being tossed hard enough into a rock wall that it craters from the impact....

you will notice.....darksied smashing batman hard enough into the wall it causes a second crater in the ROCK......

...wow...all that and he wasn't even KOed.....

Originally posted by jinzin
I already admited that he wasn't hitting as hard as possible...that however doesn't negate the fact that he's hitting harder than spiderman is capable of....

Originally posted by brainchild81
Read the words in the book. Read what Spidey tells him. I didn't claim victory since they didn't even fight to a finish. It was more like a "Stop foolin' around! You know you can't f**k w/me! Get the hell offa me! Let's team up and stop the bad guys" type thing. I thought Spidey used 1 hand to throw him. I could be wrong(never!!!). Even if he did use 2, that still means he was able to throw him before Bats could stop him. Are you saying Spidey can't throw Batman w/1hand? Spidey could have easily crushed Batman's hand or slammed his a$$ into the ground. He didn't because what kind of friendly 'hood Spider-Man would he be?

So you're saying that 2 dudes you've dealt with before>>>>>>>>>>Getting blown the hell up along with the rest of the city? Make sense. Or are you saying that because Spidey's had help before nullifies the fact that Batman did?

Read the rest of my posts when you get time.

and from the looks of things batman could have disabled spiderman's hand completely...but he didn't....the fact is you keep trying to make it sound as if the direct comparison between the two was a victory for spiderman when it was anything but...

as far as carnage goes....he's being threatened to be blown up...yet no explosion occurs.....venom is threatening to kill him..and actually attempts it with spidey and with a weapon AND with carnage in a weakened state...YET......you seem to think an (for all intents and purposes) empty threat is a more immediate danger?

Originally posted by brainchild81
How do you know that?

spiderman hitting all out....put logan's head through a tombstone with repeated blows (hitting away like a jackhammer)..............darksied put batman INTO a solid rock ground with one shot, then with one throw, THEN with one smash...and batman doesn't even have adamantium bones......figure it out...

Originally posted by jinzin
...wow...all that and he wasn't even KOed.....

Jinzin did you really miss whobdamandog's sarcasm?