Originally posted by jinzin
not if he's rolling with the punch.. jeez this is something comic book humans do all the time... not to mention the fact that batman has an ambiguously strength resistant suit from time to time..spectra.. has properties like BP's suit..
Originally posted by who?-kidF**kin A! I must admit I did like the sig w/Venom punching Spidey. It was funny
Jinzin is no Spider-Man hater. He just underestimates him, and likes to focus on his not-so-great-fights.
Originally posted by jinzin😆 Shaddap! Notice I was asking you if that's what you were saying. I didn't put anything in anybodys mouth.(see how vulgar that sounds🙂) When you said that "infinitely stronger" stuff, you inadvertantly made it seem like you didn't think Spidey could kill Bats with a punch to the face. I ASKED you so I'd have some clarification.
first off did I say batman could take a full force spidey punch and survive? no don't remember that?did I say people infinitely stronger than spiderman have punched batman with all their might in the face?
no don't remember that either..so please stop shoving words into my mouth it's annoying..
Originally posted by who?-kidI know she CAN punch waaaay faster than Spidey, but I doubt she was. I'm pretty sure Spidey can punch faster than she was. We both know that he ain't rolling with a damn thing if WW moves as fast as she can. Right?
what I said is that batman's suit can take superhuman amounts of punishment and it can...as for spiderman caving in batman's face.. yeah perhaps if batman isn't moving, but let's get real, the guy is fast enough to roll with wonder woman punches... he can't do the same with spiderman..?
Originally posted by who?-kidI'm not sure about that. Spidey @ a non PIS best was able to hold his breath right before a HGoblin gas attack because of the Spidey sense.
also his face isn't a huge target.. not that I'm implying spiderman can't hit it at all.. just that it's less likely to happen then say batman gassing spiderman in the face.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceWhat is it when a class 10 or above guy w/Superspeed punches a non-meta in the face as hard & fast as he can and the non meta survives? Spidey punches Bats in the face with the intent to kill and Batman dies. He ain't taking and Spidey haymakers and still breathing afterward.
1. Really? Must've forgot!2. It's not PIS.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilence 3. No, you just picture Spiderman standing still. I'll bet you Batman is more accurate than Spidey. Marksmanship and all.[/B]debatable(Spidey's reaaaaaaaally sharp w/those webs), but you still didn't answer. What will Spidey be doing while Bats cuts off the webbing?
Originally posted by MrHeavySilence 4. Okay, Spiderman has better reflexes.[/B]I really shouldn't have had to tell you that though. You ever read any Spidey books? I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Just asking.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilence That doesn't mean it'll work for Spidey. The Spider Sense has been tricked, decieved, used against him in many different occasions. Mysterio has developed mists that deaden the spider sense. People send messages to Spidey through the spidey sense to shake him up. It's possible Bruce can fish out something in his belt or simply find ways in the fight to turn that against Peter. Hell, its possible that since Batman is so sneaky that he'll pull a Carnage. Also, I just read that Green Goblin gassed Spidey once and that's how he learned his identity.[/B]I don't think there's prep though. Bats won't be able to cook something up fast enough.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilence 5. Superhuman Speed: Since DC has never blatantly said Batman's speed, you can't say Spidey is super duper faster. And even if he is faster, it's not by a f'ing milestone. I don't care if Marvel says Spidey's speed is superhuman, Bruce obviously isn't normal either.[/B]He's described as a human who trains really hard. Bat's is faster than the majority of humans, but he'll never be as fast as Spidey no matter how hard he trains. Spidey @ the absolute least is 5x faster than Batman. I'm being generous. & stop saying "if". There's no "if" Spidey IS faster than Batman.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilence Spidey has knocked out people with greater durability than Batman.😆Or GG, HGlol, you mean like Rhino? [/B]
Originally posted by batdude123I didn't look back far enough to notice people arguing that. Bats w/ample prep should win. Prep doesn't ensure victory against people like Spidey all the time though. There's a guy named Tracer who had all this high tech and ran all types of simulations against Spidey. Unfortunately for him when he finally got a chance @ the real thing, Spidey was all pissed off and not in the mood to play w/people like he usually does(he's in a similar mood here. Not good for Batman) and beat the s**t out of him(&Spidey had been going without rest because everybody was trying to collect a bounty on his head).
But, I think that people who say that Batman would lose to Spider-man with prep are sorely underestimating Batman's prep skills. I think he'd take the majority with prep.
[QUOTE=6476284]Originally posted by brainchild81
Fdebatable(Spidey's reaaaaaaaally sharp w/those webs), but you still didn't answer. What will Spidey be doing while Bats cuts off the webbing? /b]
Moving away from the sleeping gas?
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I really shouldn't have had to tell you that though. You ever read any Spidey books? I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Just asking.
Yeah, I actually got back into them last year (I was put off for awhile).
He's described as a human who trains really hard. Bat's is faster than the majority of humans, but he'll never be as fast as Spidey no matter how hard he trains. Spidey @ the absolute least is 5x faster than Batman. I'm being generous. & stop saying "if". There's no "if" Spidey IS faster than Batman.
Spiderman is faster, but not by a milestone. There's not enough evidence to suggest it. He doesn't just train really hard, he trains beyond what we think is the maximum capacity.
batman just doesn't have enough physical abilities to match that of Spiderman and in the end, that's what it comes down to...
Tell that to every street level fighter! Physiology is only one aspect of a fight.
"batman just doesn't have enough physical abilities to match that of Spiderman and in the end, that's what it comes down to...
Tell that to every street level fighter! Physiology is only one aspect of a fight."
I made that statement because I really don't see any advantage Batman has over Spiderman-- physically, mentally or strategically. The statement was made to make a clear point-- Batman can't hold Spiderman's jockstrap
Originally posted by brainchild81
F**kin A! I must admit I did like the sig w/Venom punching Spidey. It was funny😆 Shaddap! Notice I was asking you if that's what you were saying. I didn't put anything in anybodys mouth.(see how vulgar that sounds🙂) When you said that "infinitely stronger" stuff, you inadvertantly made it seem like you didn't think Spidey could kill Bats with a punch to the face. I ASKED you so I'd have some clarification.
it seemed like you were implying more than asking...
btw I like this new aversion to moon knight.
He's described as a human who trains really hard. Bat's is faster than the majority of humans, but he'll never be as fast as Spidey no matter how hard he trains. Spidey @ the absolute least is 5x faster than Batman. I'm being generous. & stop saying "if". There's no "if" Spidey IS faster than Batman.
Beautiful and there is no if that batman's suit is way more durable for spiderman to knock him out and turn batman's brain to liquid with one blow. There is way to much evidence for you or anyone to just assume that spiderman wins just because he is stronger.
And ask for the brain power this is were I say that batman is smarter than spiderman because he need's it to deal with people like spiderman 24/7.
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Beautiful and there is no if that batman's suit is way more durable for spiderman to knock him out and turn batman's brain to liquid with one blow.
Bane can break the Bat but not superman? 🙄 There must come a point in every comic book fan's life where he realises a lot of things the character's do are P.I.S
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
There is way to much evidence for you or anyone to just assume that spiderman wins just because he is stronger.
Well he isn't just stronger but faster, more agile, better reflexes and oh wait.............. Physically superior to Batman in almost ever way
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
And ask for the brain power this is were I say that batman is smarter than spiderman because he need's it to deal with people like spiderman 24/7.
No prep. Even if it is Batman thinking on his feet, spidey is quick enough to make him stop thinking. Permanently.
You just know Batman is weak/overrated when he is given all the breaks and all the glorious victories against opponents far more stronger and intelligent than him...
The truth is that Batman is a mere human with above average detective skills ( I say this because there are a lot out there better than him) and enough money to innovate jim jam thing-a-majig instruments with the help of a "super computer" (tribute to Dr. Evil).
DEAL!
Originally posted by RUNMAN
You just know Batman is weak/overrated when he is given all the breaks and all the glorious victories against opponents far more stronger and intelligent than him...The truth is that Batman is a mere human with above average detective skills ( I say this because there are a lot out there better than him) and enough money to innovate jim jam thing-a-majig instruments with the help of a "super computer" (tribute to Dr. Evil).
DEAL!
🤨 Batman is awesome, so shut the hell up. He's accomplished more with just brain power, fighting skills, and a little help from his gadgets, than most superpowered people have. He's the best character there is because he doesn't have any super powers and yet, finds a way to get the job done. He has to train beyond comprehension to keep up with all the people he has to fight. He's been called the best detective on earth with a genious-level IQ at over 200. I guarantee that any other character in his situation would'nt have accomplished HALF as much as he had. Watch what you say next time about the coolest character in comics next time. 😎 Spider-man wins 7/10 though. 🙁
Originally posted by RUNMAN
You just know Batman is weak/overrated when he is given all the breaks and all the glorious victories against opponents far more stronger and intelligent than him...The truth is that Batman is a mere human with above average detective skills ( I say this because there are a lot out there better than him) and enough money to innovate jim jam thing-a-majig instruments with the help of a "super computer" (tribute to Dr. Evil).
DEAL!
Originally posted by brainchild81
F**kin A! I must admit I did like the sig w/Venom punching Spidey. It was funny😆 Shaddap! Notice I was asking you if that's what you were saying. I didn't put anything in anybodys mouth.(see how vulgar that sounds🙂) When you said that "infinitely stronger" stuff, you inadvertantly made it seem like you didn't think Spidey could kill Bats with a punch to the face. I ASKED you so I'd have some clarification.I know she CAN punch waaaay faster than Spidey, but I doubt she was. I'm pretty sure Spidey can punch faster than she was. We both know that he ain't rolling with a damn thing if WW moves as fast as she can. Right?
I'm not sure about that. Spidey @ a non PIS best was able to hold his breath right before a HGoblin gas attack because of the Spidey sense.What is it when a class 10 or above guy w/Superspeed punches a non-meta in the face as hard & fast as he can and the non meta survives? Spidey punches Bats in the face with the intent to kill and Batman dies. He ain't taking and Spidey haymakers and still breathing afterward.
debatable(Spidey's reaaaaaaaally sharp w/those webs), but you still didn't answer. What will Spidey be doing while Bats cuts off the webbing?
I really shouldn't have had to tell you that though. You ever read any Spidey books? I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Just asking.
I don't think there's prep though. Bats won't be able to cook something up fast enough.
He's described as a human who trains really hard. Bat's is faster than the majority of humans, but he'll never be as fast as Spidey no matter how hard he trains. Spidey @ the absolute least is 5x faster than Batman. I'm being generous. & stop saying "if". There's no "if" Spidey IS faster than Batman.
😆Or GG, HG I didn't look back far enough to notice people arguing that. Bats w/ample prep should win. Prep doesn't ensure victory against people like Spidey all the time though. There's a guy named Tracer who had all this high tech and ran all types of simulations against Spidey. Unfortunately for him when he finally got a chance @ the real thing, Spidey was all pissed off and not in the mood to play w/people like he usually does(he's in a similar mood here. Not good for Batman) and beat the s**t out of him(&Spidey had been going without rest because everybody was trying to collect a bounty on his head).
No big deal, but it gives the false impression that I actually defend Batman, and as far as know, I'm still not a complete retard 😉
Originally posted by lifeisaglich
Beautiful and there is no if that batman's suit is way more durable for spiderman to knock him out and turn batman's brain to liquid with one blow. There is way to much evidence for you or anyone to just assume that spiderman wins just because he is stronger.And ask for the brain power this is were I say that batman is smarter than spiderman because he need's it to deal with people like spiderman 24/7.
Originally posted by who?-kid😆 Yeah I just noticed. Sorry 'bout that.
[b]Brainchild, my dear friend, you probably don't realize it, but somehow you mixed up my name with Jinzin's or MrHeavySilence (I think).No big deal, but it gives the false impression that I actually defend Batman, and as far as know, I'm still not a complete retard 😉 [/B]
Originally posted by lifeisaglichThe suit leaves enough of Batman's face exposed for a killshot. & No, Batman has to my knowledge never battled anyone w/Spidey's full powerset(Spidey has put the hurt on people who used prep & gadgets though.) I do think Bats is better @ prep(Spidey rarely preps, but when he does he's usually victorious. There's a cool fight where he's got a special web to extinguish h.torch), but I'm not 100% sure that Bats thinks better on his feet. Spidey rarely preps. Damn near all of his Ws come from improvisation. No one's ever said Spidey wins 'cause he's stronger. If Spidey was only stronger, I'd give this too Bats. Try stronger, faster, more agile, more flexible & w/precog
Beautiful and there is no if that batman's suit is way more durable for spiderman to knock him out and turn batman's brain to liquid with one blow. There is way to much evidence for you or anyone to just assume that spiderman wins just because he is stronger.And ask for the brain power this is were I say that batman is smarter than spiderman because he need's it to deal with people like spiderman 24/7.
Originally posted by MrHeavySilenceWhat gas sleeping gas are you talking of? I didn't know this scenario had him using gas before getting webbed. Spidey's a multitasker though, he can evade gas while firing even more webs or he could just hold his breath and continue webbing Bats up even worse. It's always good(and Batman like🙂) to think "What's the other guy gonna do?" when you imagine a scenario
[QUOTE=6476284]Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]Fdebatable(Spidey's reaaaaaaaally sharp w/those webs), but you still didn't answer. What will Spidey be doing while Bats cuts off the webbing? /b]Moving away from the sleeping gas?
Originally posted by jinzinI'm a KMC Avenger now and Spidey & BP already taken. MKnight's a cool character. He's like Batman without the lil' sidekicks(last time I checked). (Sidekicks are the only thing about Batman I don't really like) When you get a chance go to Ninjai.com. You have any scans of Bats using sonics or high freq. emitors?
it seemed like you were implying more than asking...btw I like this new aversion to moon knight.
The suit leaves enough of Batman's face exposed for a killshot. & No, Batman has to my knowledge never battled anyone w/Spidey's full powerset(Spidey has put the hurt on people who used prep & gadgets though.) I do think Bats is better @ prep(Spidey rarely preps, but when he does he's usually victorious. There's a cool fight where he's got a special web to extinguish h.torch), but I'm not 100% sure that Bats thinks better on his feet. Spidey rarely preps. Damn near all of his Ws come from improvisation. No one's ever said Spidey wins 'cause he's stronger. If Spidey was only stronger, I'd give this too Bats. Try stronger, faster, more agile, more flexible & w/precog
Nobody has "killshotted" Batman yet, so that pretty much suggests the suit makes it incapable for him to die that easy. If it was easy as that, every villain would be doing it. And Spidey isn't really better on his feet, that's how villains take advantage of him. Anyway, Spidey is only better in the physical aspects, and even so, the suit compensates for most of it. Plus, physical superiority doesn't dictate victory in comics. Batman's got the edge because he has a lot more options: his belt is just so versatile and Bruce is smarter.
Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey's a multitasker though, he can evade gas while firing even more webs or he could just hold his breath and continue webbing Bats up even worse.
Originally posted by brainchild81not off hand.. but he uses it in one of his first encounters with superman.
You have any scans of Bats using sonics or high freq. emitors?