Yet none of you can disprove the speed shown in the scan I posted, Batman moved so fast that he left after images in the eye of the narrator. Furthermore, Batman moved so fast he was faster than the dissipation rate of five hand gun shots.
I posted an objective measurement, none of you have yet to disprove that or counter it.
Batman >>>>>>>>>> Spiderman in speed,
Originally posted by Surtur
Handgun dodging is definitely the right phrase, because he's just dodging the aim of the gun, he is not dodging bullets shot from ANY gun though.See, this is dodging bullets:
Dodging bullets is far FAR slower than moving faster than the five hand gun muzzle flash dissipations.
Yeah you kind of are not getting it. Batman is jumping out of the way of the bullets in your scan. He begins in once place and ends up in another. Batgirl is standing still, she does not move her feet at all, she just flat out dodges the bullets, not the aim.
Again: compare what Batman is doing to what you see Batgirl doing. Notice how Batman is doing flips and shit to avoid the gunfire? That's because he can't dodge the actual bullets, which is why he has to keep moving.
Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah you kind of are not getting it. Batman is jumping out of the way of the bullets in your scan. He begins in once place and ends up in another. Batgirl is standing still, she does not move her feet at all, she just flat out dodges the bullets, not the aim.Again: compare what batman is doing to what you see batgirl doing. Notice how Batman is doing flips and shit to avoid the gunfire? That's because he can't dodge the actual bullets, which is why he has to keep moving.
I suppose you simply do not understand what the scan is showing, or maybe you do not understand physics.
Batman in the scan I posted moved so fast that the muzzle flash of all 5 shots is still present in the image, the first one hasn't even begun to dissipate. Meaning he was moving in the millions of feet per second range, as I provided the math within the same post.
This speed is far beyond the velocity speed of any bullet of any gun/riffle/canon fire. Batman was moving at over 9 million feet per .1 second, this trumps any speed feet Spiderman has ever displayed on panel.
Originally posted by Board Walker
[b]Batman absolutely stomps Spiderman into the ground when it comes to on panel speed feats.Muzzle flash for handguns occurs at a speed of 1050 frames per second, the dissipation rate for the muzzle flash is about .01 seconds for a handgun from start to finish.The enemy in question who fired at Batman was able to produce 5 shots of which none have yet to begin dissipating. This means 5 shots were produced within .01 seconds, this is because dissipation has not started for the first shot fired.
Furthermore we know that the average speed of a handgun round is 2500 feet per second, and the picture shows that 4 of the bullets made contact with the wall. So we can conclude that the distance from the barrel to the wall was 2500x.01 which comes out to 25 feet per .01 of a second.
Thus 5 bullets were within .01 of a second of which each was traveling at a speed of 25 feet per .01 second. Batman dodged 5 shots at point blank, meaning he accelerated beyond a speed of 25^5 feet per .01 second AKA 9,765,625 feet per .01 second.
Batman absolutely out classes Gamora in combat speed, reaction speed, and close quarters acceleration speed.
Furthermore, this is also a durability feet as batman is experiencing a high velocity level while he is movinf at 9.8 mlion feet per second. This means batman is experiencing 9 g's every 30 feet per second traveled. Thus 9.8 million/30=number of g's of force he cab withstand. This means gamora will need to output kinetic force beyond that level to even harm batman. [/B]
Muzzle flash dissipates at X speed, 5 muzzle flashes occurred within Y Time frame. Batman moved faster than the dissipation rate of five muzzle flashes, because the first one has not even begun to dissipate.
Batman was moving at 9.8 million feet per second, this is a speed feat and a durability feat because his body was able to withstand the kinetic G's he was experiencing while moving at that speed.
Batman is faster than Spiderman, and for that matter almost everyone on Marvel earth and his durability is beyond anything Spiderman could produce to hurt him.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Muzzle flash dissipates at X speed, 5 muzzle flashes occurred within Y Time frame. Batman moved faster than the dissipation rate of five muzzle flashes, because the first one has not even begun to dissipate.Batman was moving at 9.8 million feet per second, this is a speed feat and a durability feat because his body was able to withstand the kinetic G's he was experiencing while moving at that speed.
Batman is faster than Spiderman, and for that matter almost everyone on Marvel earth and his durability is beyond anything Spiderman could produce to hurt him.
Didn't you make the argument that Superman has tactile kinesis? So that he basically travels at high speeds unaffected or unaffecting his surroundings.
So surely if you believe he's going at light speed Batman shares the same ability. Unless you are renouncing this tactile kinesis (I think you referred to it as subconscious matter manipulation). So that feat would have nothing to do with durability. Rather Batman's ability to subconsciously manipulate the matter around him (as I understand your way of phrasing it). Instead of instantly shattering everything around him. As in your own words Superman travelling light speeds without this tactile kinesis would rip everything to shreds.
If you agree with one you contradict the other.
Originally posted by Board WalkerAt that speed (~ 1,860 miles per second / 6.7 million miles per hour / Mach 9000 / 1% lightspeed), even if the whole fight lasted only a fraction of a second, Batman shoulda been at least a thousand feet outside the room.
Batman was moving at 9.8 million feet per second
Originally posted by Mindship
At that speed (~ 1,860 miles per second / 6.7 million miles per hour / Mach 9000 / 1% lightspeed), even if the whole fight lasted only a fraction of a second, Batman shoulda been at least a thousand feet outside the room.
It is every .01 second, not 1 second. Adjust your calculations for that, and yes you would be accurate.
Batman was moving far beyond light speed.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Didn't you make the argument that Superman has tactile kinesis? So that he basically travels at high speeds unaffected or unaffecting his surroundings.So surely if you believe he's going at light speed Batman shares the same ability. Unless you are renouncing this tactile kinesis (I think you referred to it as subconscious matter manipulation). So that feat would have nothing to do with durability. Rather Batman's ability to subconsciously manipulate the matter around him (as I understand your way of phrasing it). Instead of instantly shattering everything around him. As in your own words Superman travelling light speeds without this tactile kinesis would rip everything to shreds.
If you agree with one you contradict the other.
You are making your own assumptions which have nothing to do with what I am stating. I have never once stated batman has tactile telekinesis, batman's ability to withstand the hyper light speeds that he moved at was due to his durability, not due to tactile telekinesis.
Originally posted by Board Walker
You are making your own assumptions which have nothing to do with what I am stating. I have never once stated batman has tactile telekinesis, batman's ability to withstand the hyper light speeds that he moved at was due to his durability, not due to tactile telekinesis.
I didn't say that. If you read my message again I asked do you apply the same rules for Batman because logically if Supes has that while he's moving at light speeds then Batman will as well. If what you say is true that moving at light speeds destroys everything around you then Batman's movement isn't durability but tactile kinesis.
Because if tactile kinesis doesn't exist for Batman then all of his surroundings will be instantly obliterated.
I'll wait for you to find a quote where I suggested that you stated that's what Batman used.