]Silver Surfer VS God-like Cable[

Originally posted by JuggernautFan
i think people are confused with re-arranging matter here....... now bare with me for a moment.

to re arrange something means to take apart, and put into a new order. so if you have xyz and rearrange it would then be yxz. you are all talking about molecular conversion. as far as i know surfer doesnt have this power. that would be starting with xyz and completely changing it to a different substance such as abc. see the difference???

yea i see wut ur talkin bout, but "re-arranging matter" as u say...could be just as devastating. does surf have this power? if he does i mean it basically comes down to can cable do anything before surf uses any of this power, or if cable can somehow shut it down.

but like someone here said, if cable doesn't allow surf to see him...then it goes to cable. u cant beat someone u cant see

guess i did some research

"The Silver Surfer can endow himself with Class 100 strength, enabling him to lift (press) over 100 tons. He possesses the Power Cosmic which he can use to generate powerful force blasts or to [1]rearrange molecules. The Surfer travels on a "surfboard" which responds to his [2]mental commands and is as indestructible as he is. He has a Cosmic Awareness which allows him to feel energy around him."

1] guess he CAN re-arrange molecules....but 2] if he has tha means to "mentally" anything- it means cable could disrupt it. he could prolly shut down surfs powers for one, out of thousands of things cable can do.

Originally posted by HarmonicFlo88
yea i see wut ur talkin bout, but "re-arranging matter" as u say...could be just as devastating. does surf have this power? if he does i mean it basically comes down to can cable do anything before surf uses any of this power, or if cable can somehow shut it down.

but like someone here said, if cable doesn't allow surf to see him...then it goes to cable. u cant beat someone u cant see

yes he CAn re-arrange matter, by the way he doesn´t need to see cable, he can feel cables energy and find him. and i really doubt that cable could control surfer mentaly.

surf is a cosmic being, so i automatically take away a lot of cables abilities...but as vast as they are, cable is STILL powerfull enough to mentally destroy a cosmic mind.

i did think bout surfs cosmic awareness, and ur rite....he can sense where cable is. but wut if cable was to create multiple appearances of himself and give each an entity feel? surf would be confused outa this world...or uh in to this world lol

surfer can rearrange matter, he has turned hundreds of tons of rock into gas...and a huge chamber of treasure terrax had been seeking, into sand, all in the blink of an eye and without effort...then turned that same sand into a diamond figurine and gave it to Nova

Surfer is a cosmic power being, sure cable is one of the most powerful mutants in earth, but he´s still human.

true, Cable still have a human body while Surfer's body is a battery for cosmic power.

and im still not sure how Cables attacks would truly hurt the Surfer...his durability makes it so he cannot be harmed by a conventional means...beating him around with TK would just be trying to break something indestructable with force...although I doubt cable would be using his TK since he would be too busy getting his ass kicked by Surfer

Originally posted by Wynndar
and im still not sure how Cables attacks would truly hurt the Surfer...his durability makes it so he cannot be harmed by a conventional means...beating him around with TK would just be trying to break something indestructable with force...although I doubt cable would be using his TK since he would be too busy getting his ass kicked by Surfer

thats exactly what i´ve said, cable´s Telekenesis and Telepathy wouldn´t work on surfer.

maybe his tp would work but i think Surfer's resistance against tp is pretty good. unless Cable could warp reality i think Surfer is going to win

ok lets say telekinetics is outa tha picture since surf is "indestructable" but wut if cable mind controls surf to kill himself in ways only he himself knows? or if cable gains knowledge of wut would hurt surfer by goin in his memory? or create hallucinations to throw off surf? cable can do many things

Originally posted by Wynndar
hahaha...Cable haters?...are they hating or did they lose the right to have an opinion on the matter

hmm the word hate was used. I have seen it. As for opinions everyone has them. My point is why do certain people dislike somethings? There usually should be a reason why u don't like something. If not u r usually basing your opinion on someone else's take.

Originally posted by Wynndar
surfer can rearrange matter, he has turned hundreds of tons of rock into gas...and a huge chamber of treasure terrax had been seeking, into sand, all in the blink of an eye and without effort...then turned that same sand into a diamond figurine and gave it to Nova

issue numbers please. i'd like to check on this. just for verification 🙂

i think surfer would win by the way, i just wanted people to know that molecular re-arrangement is different than molecular conversion. because it is different...........

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tha new cable is close to x-man's power, and so he is more powerfull than silver surfer. this is mere fact. so i guess this goes to cable.

oh man........ not that arguement again. it isnt fact............

there are flaws on that. king thor on par with hulk??? i doubt it. king thor could play with hulk, and hulk would have no choice in the matter.

i just dont get how this poll can be 50/50 when thor is getting demolished on the other one. doesnt make any sense.

sure and mephisto is stronger then surfer? and hulk is stronger then surfer? i don´t think so. by the way do we really know if cable is that close to nate, it sure looks like, but do ppl really know how nate would be if he was able to controll all his power?
sorry but i´m not seeing cable defeating a celestial, or beyonder, or even odin.

its hulk full power dude, hes been there like once in marvel comics, and thats when he beat onslaught

i didn´t read the story and correct me if i´m wrong but hulk DID NOT beat onslaugh.

well, he kinda ripped him apart....

what? wasn´t the fantastic four, doom, iron man, etc etc, that beat onslaugh?