Originally posted by Molecule man
In terms of power levels they are evenly matched but as i said before Cable got a human body...
A human body that could be just as protected to equal surf's indestructablility. since cable has tha power to augment a telekinetic force field, i'm yet to understand why ppl are using surf's cosmic/indestrutable body to support him being tha victor.
Norrin radd suggested somethin similar, this was my response
Originally posted by HarmonicFlo88
thas really cheap, and ruthless to all that would die, and not to mention uncharacteristic for surf. face it, surf would lose. BUT OK, lets say that surf DID destroy tha earth as cheap and careless as that is not to mention surf would get jumped by a million powerfull beings...for it to be a fair fight surf would have to let cable wear some sort of suit - since surf is fighting someone who isn't a cosmic being, as he is.
Originally posted by Wynndar
the surfer is a cosmic being...how do we know Cable would even have an effect on him...Surfer has some inherent telepathic and mental powers...but the telepaths he has encountered like Goddess are Warlock are cosmic eings too...because Warlock has been in his mind=not a safe assumption
"being in his mind" is something that would happen because Silver Surfer allowed it. Breaking into his mind is a totally different aspect.
And If you're going to go off and say "Adam Warlock is a cosmic being too" I don't see how that would warrant your reasoning as "a safe assumption" either.
Warlock wouldn't be able to do the things that Cable has been successful of doing on Earth.
Originally posted by Molecule man
Who cares abt a fair fight? We just wanna know who will win a fight between Surfer and Cable right
Surf IS a cosmic being is he not? cable IS a human-mutant is he not?
Obviously, surf is stronger in space...thas where he usually hangs.
So for surf to come to earth to fight a human-mutant and THEN take him out in space - since cable is too strong on earth? thas UTTERLY pathetic. yes thas also not fair and i'll tell u why that has to be fair, simply BECAUSE surf is a cosmic being and hes fighting a humant-mutant, he must make tha surroundings fair. or else tha whole battle is pointless.
Surroundings should always be equally helpfull/unhelpfull to both parties.
Originally posted by HarmonicFlo88
Norrin Radd - Wit a name like yours, i prolly couldn't convince u no matter how hard i tried. end tha discussion? why man? tha polls show this is a good match up, if noone else thinks so :-/.besides u cant just say *anythin* jus to support surf, if u cant think of anythin "real" than just admit that cable would win this one.
btw u haven't convinced me how surf could prevail either :-p.
i already said why i think surfer would win, not going to repeat myself.
next time i will choose a different, nick every time i say something about surfer, i´m suspicious.
i´ve admited before that surfer can loose, in fact he can loose against many, but cable? maybe it´s possible, i´m still not seeing how can he pull this one, and yes i read all your posts, still think that it wouldn´t work on surfer. Surfer is more powerful, the only way he would loose is mentally trough telepathy, but like i´ve said before i have serious doubts that cable is in fact able to do it, but not to worry when the comic gets out we will all know, maybe your right i have no problem in admiting i was mistaken.
But for now, i will back up Surfer.
Originally posted by HarmonicFlo88
Surf IS a cosmic being is he not? cable IS a human-mutant is he not?
Obviously, surf is stronger in space...thas where he usually hangs.So for surf to come to earth to fight a human-mutant and THEN take him out in space - since cable is too strong on earth? thas UTTERLY pathetic. yes thas also not fair and i'll tell u why that has to be fair, simply BECAUSE surf is a cosmic being and hes fighting a humant-mutant, he must make tha surroundings fair. or else tha whole battle is pointless.
Surroundings should always be equally helpfull/unhelpfull to both parties.
humm so living tribunal has to transform in a human and come to earth to find someone, ´he can´t simply snap his fingers and destroy him because it wouldn´t be fair. Do you really think that a fight between a human or mutant is fair against a being such as living tribunal? of course not.
just like a fight between surfer and cable wouldn´t be fair to. (i´m joking no need to beat the crap out of me LOL)
If LT ever needs to do somethin, he never engages in a battle. as u put it, he snaps his fingers....thas not fighting therefore there is nothing to be fair or unfair. it is simply a being in charge of making sure tha multiverse is safe.
Cable and surfer on tha other hand : surfer is not that powerfull to where tha ENTIRE battle is unfair. Its simply pathetic to drag cable out of earth, where cable would possibly win. Surroundings, like i said...must always be equal to both parties. that is only ONE thing that has to be fair. Surfer may be more powerfull and durable in a match up, if he is so damn good as you ppl defend him - then wuts tha use of goin outa space anyway?? i think most of you are in denial, i say that to explain ur radical reasoning to support surfer.
Originally posted by HarmonicFlo88
If LT ever needs to do somethin, he never engages in a battle. as u put it, he snaps his fingers....thas not fighting therefore there is nothing to be fair or unfair. it is simply a being in charge of making sure tha multiverse is safe.Cable and surfer on tha other hand : surfer is not that powerfull to where tha ENTIRE battle is unfair. Its simply pathetic to drag cable out of earth, where cable would possibly win. Surroundings, like i said...must always be equal to both parties. that is only ONE thing that has to be fair. Surfer may be more powerfull and durable in a match up, if he is so damn good as you ppl defend him - then wuts tha use of goin outa space anyway?? i think most of you are in denial, i say that to explain ur radical reasoning to support surfer.
i was joking. But yes he is that damn good.
Originally posted by HarmonicFlo88
totally random...but hell fcuk no. nate grey would own surfer faster than cable would.
It wasnt random.
I asked that in that way to see what people wuld say about that match up. It seems many peopel dont realize Cable's current power level.
If i would have said the usuall Cable & X man powers similiarites, the fanboys would try to discredit X-man powers if mentioned along side Cable's.
Without Cable's name being mentioned many peopel would think that X Man would be a match for the Silver Surfer.