Under the right direction with the right writers and actors, you'll get a good movie. Just because Schumacher screwed up miserably doesn't mean all films are doomed to follow that same process. I would like to see them keep everyone (cept Dunst maybe), but if they don't, they just have to get some good people to replace them.
Originally posted by NoFate007
Under the right direction with the right writers and actors, you'll get a good movie. Just because Schumacher screwed up miserably doesn't mean all films are doomed to follow that same process. I would like to see them keep everyone (cept Dunst maybe), but if they don't, they just have to get some good people to replace them.
Exactly 😉
I agree it had to restart...but you can't predict if a new director a new cast will make another succesful spider-man movie...I'm not saying it won't. But you can't ignore the fact that a whole new movie with a new cast and director could fail...I just hope that if they do that they won't make the same mistake as with Batman Forever. I'm not saying they will give spidey nipples lol, but nipples aren't the only thing that can doom a movie 😉
Yeah, I actually heard that after Batman and Robin, Schumacher was going to make another Batman movie with Scarecrow and the Mad Hatter as the main villains. Fortunantly, B&R sucked and Scarecrow was done justice by a more competant director.
It's hard for a director to suck as bad as Schumacher did. Like, they'd actually have to work at it. I think Spiderman will live on past Raimi.
Well indeed Spider-Man of course has more chance to survive than batman could after such a flop like batman & robin. that's why they had to restart. But I have my doubts about other directors that could make mistakes....I think Tim Burton is a great director, but he wanted to make Superman more alien...I don't know if that would turn out okay. It wasn't just the director, it was the acting and the the story that sucked too in B&R. Batman Begins had it all...a good director, good cast, good story, good acting, good action...you name it...
I can't say...I know more about spider-man than batman...I don't have much batman comics, I have more of spider-man. All because I bought a whole stock ones who was selling all his spider-man comics. I see that spider-man is complex too, also because (tell me if I'm wrong) more characters are involved (I'm not talking about villains) About Batman the story mainly turns around Bruce, but in Spider-Man you see more characters getting developped...MJ, Harry...I also don't know if there happen really major changes in Batman...characters that die, change...like I said I don't know that much about Batman
Originally posted by NoFate007
Under the right direction with the right writers and actors, you'll get a good movie. Just because Schumacher screwed up miserably doesn't mean all films are doomed to follow that same process. I would like to see them keep everyone (cept Dunst maybe), but if they don't, they just have to get some good people to replace them.
What he said... 😄
Originally posted by Doc OckThey would alos have to do something like putting the White House in NYC...
Ah you think they MIGHT.SeeD reckons they def will.I think they've learned from Schumacher's crappy mistakes.Unless they give the Spider-Man suit nipples,turn New York all neon,and make the villains campy as hell,then yeah they'll suck.
But that won't be happening.
Raimi is not all that great.He is totally replaceable.And to think that any Spider-Man movie not directed by him,or not featuring Tobey Maguire and dozy Dunst will suck,is just ignorant.
Originally posted by CascadorNot complex? No character development?
I can't say...I know more about spider-man than batman...I don't have much batman comics, I have more of spider-man. All because I bought a whole stock ones who was selling all his spider-man comics. I see that spider-man is complex too, also because (tell me if I'm wrong) more characters are involved (I'm not talking about villains) About Batman the story mainly turns around Bruce, but in Spider-Man you see more characters getting developped...MJ, Harry...I also don't know if there happen really major changes in Batman...characters that die, change...like I said I don't know that much about Batman
1940. Bruce sees a young circus actor orphaned, adopts him and ROBIN is bborn
1950s. Bruce and Dick join forces with kathy and Beetty kane AKA Bat Woman a nd Girl
SOMETIME. Barbara Gordon becomes Batgirl
SOME OTHER TIME. Jim Gordon has a kid with Barbara Gordon, his 1st wife
AND... jim divorces Barb, later marries Sarah Essen and adopts his niece, Barbara.
barbara Gordon is crippled by the Joker
Dick Grayson leaves Batman to become Niughtwing
Jason todd meets Batman and becomes robin
Jason todd is murdered by the Joker
Helena Bertinelli, an orphan, becomes the killer vigilante Huntress
Over time, Helena softens and stops killing!!!
Tim Drake works out Bruce is Batman and becomes Robin III#
Cluemaster's daughter, stephanie Brown, beomes Spoiler
Stephanie is pregnant
She gives away the baby
She hooks up with Tim Drake
Stephanie dies in war games
Dick grayson heads to gurrd bludhaven
Tim and the new Batgirl, Cassanfra Cain, join him.
Joker kills sarah Gordon
Barb becomes Oracle
That's in no particaulr order, but who can deny character development?
I just think seeing a new person as Peter/MJ/Grandma May/ Etc.. and Mr. Jameson.. I mean who els could do that? He plays that character perfectly..
I dunno it would just be soo weird seeing new people that it wouldnt seem real. When other movies do that it just ruins them in my eyes. If you cant keep doing the movies with the same people I say the just stop at 3 and call it a trilogy 😉