Originally posted by mephistodesigns
he's said multiple times over the years that he chose the name because Vader meant father....i.e. Luke's father. But we will have to wait till ROTS to find out it's in-universe meaning.
Err... when did he say this?
When he developed Vader's character, he wasn't Luke's father...
Ush, I'm not sure, there was a thread about this late last year or early this year, and a bunch of people pointed out that it means father in some language. I think that's a little too much of a coincidence...don't you? Maybe he wasn't Luke's dad when he came up with Vader because on the Bonus Disc he says originally Vader was to be the bad father and Obi-wan a good father, then he combinded the father idea to just being Vader. Lucas discusses this in the ANH commenary as well. So even at the time of ANH's final drafts and filming, Lucas knew Vader would be Luke's father, that's why Obi-wan looks uncomfortable when he tells Luke Anakin's story. Which ends up being B.S. from that whole certain point of view. Lucas also said he wrote a 200 page script which had the makings of ESB and ROTJ in them. He didn't have time to bring the whole Anakin is really Vader into it once he took the first act for the first movie out of the bigger script. Again, evidence he had it planned. So, maybe not when he "developed" Vader in the concept phase, but certainly when he finished the character and named him, since we apparently need to get so technical around here to be believed. 😄
Dartj Surgent--that's what I always thought before anyone told me the father thing. I like that name reasoning. But won't it be lame if it just ends up that the Emperor just loves being evil so much that he names all his disciples with evil words? that seems really really crappy to me...I would hope he's smarter than that.
Originally posted by jedijunky1138well to me kenobi had that face like he was hiding something.....when he was telling luke about his father,yeah he was sad,but i dont know.... check out the part in ANH when he explains to luke how "vader destroyed your father"
the only thing I saw as far as a face goes is sadness. Can't he just be sad about loosing a good friend?
PVS--not according to the DVD's and Lucas' commentary. He says by the time he wrote that 200 page script, he had all of that stuff realitively ironed out. The FIRST ACT of the 200 page script was expanded to ANH. He talks about how he didn't have time to get into Vader being Anakin, Luke's dad in ANH, so it ended up in ESB with more build up so it was a bigger deal. But he knew that whole part of the story. He said he wrote everyone's back story out in outline form, which is what he used to start eh prequels. This is in the commentary tracks of the DVDs.