Does any1 here think that the 1st was way better than the other 2 ?

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no i wasn't back tracking, i was pointing out no matter what bogus spin you put on it, the second two still end with the same message, making them pointless

Originally posted by tabby999
no i wasn't back tracking, i was pointing out no matter what bogus spin you put on it, the second two still end with the same message, making them pointless

Once again, they weren't the same message. The message at the end of the first was Neo was the first one and was the savior of humanity. The message of the second two was he wasn't the only one and that he wasn't the savior of all humanity, he just saved Zion and created a temporary peace.

Originally posted by <<Solo>>
Exactly my thoughts.

The first one was the best. However, the other two were great films for the avergae sci-fi fan. All 3 had great plots, action, and suspense. Special effects were top of the line and the whole storyline was incredible. Makes you really think.

Originally posted by ETK
The first one was the best. However, the other two were great films for the avergae sci-fi fan. All 3 had great plots, action, and suspense. Special effects were top of the line and the whole storyline was incredible. Makes you really think.

And to think, not one of them got nominated for best Special effects in the Academy Awards!!! That alone shows you how much against the Matrix people were.

and either way, they end with peace which will end with mankinds saving. what a load of bollocks, we all know it dosn't matter what happens, it still works out. in the first movie, neo gets shot by smith, then gets back up and wins. then in the second one the architect says that he cant save trinity, but he does that. **** what were told by the bogus second movies, it still happens, if they went on to make another three movies neo would come back get told he couldn't do something, do it and save the day. and those three movies would be as pointless as the last two

except you are mistaking plot for plot holes. For instance, the Architect tells Neo that he cannot save Trinity because he needs Neo to reload the Matrix. Acting like he knows the future, and giving Neo one logical choice is a very logical move for a computer. Except the computer doesn't understand emotion, doesn't understand the utter randomness that is inherent in humanity. So of course he is wrong. Plus, Neo got shot by Smith in the Matrix, and he doesn't die because everything clicks in his subconscience like peices of a jigsaw puzzle. He understands, by being shot, and by hearing Trinity say "I love you" that he is the One, that what the Oracle said would happen, happened, that, whether he believes in it or not, destiny has it's grasp on him, and it is not going to let go. As for Neo coming back, no. Neo is alive, yes, but in what form. He will not walk into Zion again. He will not walk through the Matrix again. However, he can, perhaps, travel through the Matrix, and in the programming of all the Machines.

Doesn't anyone spell around here?

why, is this supposed to be a spelling bee?

what do you mean, doesn't anyone spell around here? i see that i misspelled pieces, which i didn't catch, but honestly, i try to spell correctly all the time.

No, I started going to a forum where everyone talks like they're writing an essay for some reason, so when i come here, i see the place is loaded with minor not correct stuff that burns my eyes like fire after going to that other one.

u guys r all just saying whats the point, neo saves the day in the end of all movies. but, thats how every friggin move is!! the hero saves the day. hey! star wars has 6 movies and in each one, the hero saves the day in the end, yet more keep coming. its just the way it goes!!

but i like the first one, cuz the fight scenes r more realistic. the first one has more or the actors or stunt doubles on wires and stuff, and 2 and 3 theirs way too much computer animation that it looks fake. like in the burly brawl, for half the time, neo looks like a videogame character. i dunno, i love all three movies, but original will always kick ass

we all love the matrix, but youd have to be blind to miss the huge plot holes. using the "we'll leave it to the audience to draw their own conclusions" excuse is good if u have intentionally done it, which admitedly they did sometimes, but the two sequels did have plot holes, obviously huge ones at that. and the writing direction and acting were poorer in the sequels (the only exception being hugo weaving).

not ever good guy wins, look at braveheart, he got ****ed over

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Originally posted by tabby999
not ever good guy wins, look at braveheart, he got ****ed over

He did win in a sense because he started what would lead to the freedom of his people, in way very similar to what Neo did now that I think of it. 😄

hid did lose, in a very "off with his head" kinda way

Originally posted by pr1983
we all love the matrix, but youd have to be blind to miss the huge plot holes. using the "we'll leave it to the audience to draw their own conclusions" excuse is good if u have intentionally done it, which admitedly they did sometimes, but the two sequels did have plot holes, obviously huge ones at that. and the writing direction and acting were poorer in the sequels (the only exception being hugo weaving).

could you please iterate the "obvious plot holes" for me?

for revolutions read this:

http://www.paraseek.com/reviews/matrix3.html

hes got a couple of things wronmg but imo is generally right.

as for what i said earlier, my apologies, by sequels i meant revolutions, i actually thought reloaded was pretty decent, but still nowhere near the quality of the firsty movie