Star Destroyers

Vympel--sorry, but you are so totally wrong. Post the Victory Class pic from the Guide to Vehicles, and see how many people agree with you. The Imperial class in the guide has a bunch of huge antnae coming off the top of the command head piece. I don't see ANY antenae on the Stardestroyers in the films. The victory looks exactly like the ones in the films. Post the pic, and a pic from the movie, and you will be so owned its not even funny. I've been at this a long time, you're out of your league.

victory class has huge Fins on the sides and a protruding bridge, it looks nothing like the ones in the film,m its also about 700 meters shorter

what the hell are you talking about? Again, go get the Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels from Del Rey, go to the page about the Victory Class Stardestroyer. There are no fins. Where the hell do you people get yer info? Somebody, please post the pic from the Guide I'm talking about. It'll end this pointless and ill-informed debate.

lol...and we're arguing about some fins? 😛

Welcome to the DARK SIDE people!!!!!!!!

Yeah its a dumb arguement. But at least if you're gonna have a dumb arguement, be right!! 😄
But yeah, this thread is moving into deep EU territory. In the OT, they all look the same. In the PT, we haven't heard them be called anything so its a pretty dumb arguement to have I guess...

HOLY COW That was the best one yet!!!!!!!

These fins, man, notice the wing like protrusions

http://www.kolumbus.fi/antti.lusila/starwars/pics/vsd12.jpg

http://home.wlu.edu/~overholtzerc/swguides/images/vsdschm.jpg

nothing in OT has ever looked that way

ctsketch - at last someone who has shown the "FINS"

Meph - chill out - Victory class was not in the OT

Originally posted by mephistodesigns
Vympel--sorry, but you are so totally wrong. Post the Victory Class pic from the Guide to Vehicles, and see how many people agree with you. The Imperial class in the guide has a bunch of huge antnae coming off the top of the command head piece. I don't see ANY antenae on the Stardestroyers in the films.

What exactly do you think that thing in between the globes is on every ISD in the films? An antenna. Specifically, a tractor beam targeting array.

Also- I didn't say anything about Victory's and Imperial's in that context either. I'm saying that the ships we've seen in Episode III bear *no resemblance at all* to the Victory-class. I certainly didn't mention anything about antennae in the context of Victory-class ships. Read what I said properly.

*You* were the one who thinks the Venator-class ships in Episode III are Victory's, and that's quite wrong:

Victoy class is on page 188 and looks EXACTLY like the ones in the film.

That's what you said, isn't it? There is no ship in any of the six films (from what we've seen of ROTS so far) that looks like the Victory. None. At all. You're wrong, as the pictures posted show. Victory's have also been seen in other publications, confirming this.

I've been at this a long time, you're out of your league. [/B]

Obviously false, since you haven't even noticed that the ISD in ANH has a different array in between it's globes than the larger model made for TESB, and that they changed the antenna on the smaller model when TESB came round to make them look alike. Looks like you're the one out of your league, hmm? 🙂

A New Hope Star Destroyer tower- note the different antenna array in between the globes:

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TESB Star Destroyer tower- note the new antenna

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Those aren't the antenna I'm talking about! CT Sketch posted pics, those are the IMPERIAL CLASS STARDESTROYER IN THE ESSENTIAL GUIDE TO VEHICLES AND VESSELS. Thats the one I'm talking about that wasn't in the movie! Do you see the large pole sticking out of the top? The guide calls it a communication tower, that is the huge antenna I was talking about! That's the one that was never in the movies. The Victory class in the Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels IS THE ONE IN THE FILMS. Jesus Christ. You guys are really off on this, you have no idea. Post the pic from the Guide of the one called Victory class and see what people say. Post it, please. It will end this.

But thank you Sketch for posting pics of the IMPERIAL CLASS Stardestroyer for me. That's the one that IS NOT in the films. That's not victory, its imperial. You need the rest of the page where the title of the ship is. That's only part of the page.

And Vympel, poor little Vympel, those aren't the antenna. The antenna is the large pole in the pics of the Imperial Class Stardestroyer that Sketch posted. You posted two models of what the EU calls Victory class with two very slightly different "array's" on them. The "array" in the middle isn't an antenna. You know that metal pole sticking out of most cars? That's called an antenna. So I guess you are still out of your league as you are still totally and uterrly wrong. Hmmm. Too bad. All we need to settle this is for someone to please explain to me how to post pics on here without having to go to another sight to do it. Perhaps I can email them to people? I have the Guide and a scanner, I'll send you a pic of an Imperial, and one of the Victory, with the title clearly on the top of the page. That's why I know you're wrong. I have the guide right here. The Imperial clearly wasn't in the film, and the Victory looks just like the ones in the films. And that's from Lucas film so whatever old grainy pics you want to post, go right ahead, it's just making you look more and more foolish.

http://stufs.wlu.edu/~overholtzerc/swguides/images/isdschm.jpg

there, that's a link to the detail page of the victory class. Looks like the one in the movie right? That's cuz its based on models used in the films.

*You* were the one who thinks the Venator-class ships in Episode III are Victory's, and that's quite wrong:

No I don't! I said in the films, OT. Obviously the ones in the prequels don't look like victory class. Victory is an OT ship. Please pay attention before jumping to conclusions about what I've said.

That's what you said, isn't it? There is no ship in any of the six films (from what we've seen of ROTS so far) that looks like the Victory. None. At all. You're wrong, as the pictures posted show. Victory's have also been seen in other publications, confirming this.

The pictures posted by you are victory, the pics posted by Sketch are of the Imperial class according to the Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels. That pic he posted of the detailed skematic are on page 81. And he's right, that one does have protrusions on the side. That's why its not the one in the films. And the "array" is very different because it has huge antenna. Maybe you should check your "publications". They obviously arent' the vehicle guides put out by Lucasbooks.

Originally posted by mephistodesigns
http://stufs.wlu.edu/~overholtzerc/swguides/images/isdschm.jpg

there, that's a link to the detail page of the victory class. Looks like the one in the movie right? That's cuz its based on models used in the films.

dude thats not a VSD, thats an ISD pick, you can even tell by the name of the damn file, I posted a VSDshematic pic already

this my friend, is a VSD

http://home.wlu.edu/~overholtzerc/swguides/images/vsdschm.jpg

learn the difference

u people need to get out more

Originally posted by mephistodesigns
[B]Those aren't the antenna I'm talking about! CT Sketch posted pics, those are the IMPERIAL CLASS STARDESTROYER IN THE ESSENTIAL GUIDE TO VEHICLES AND VESSELS.

No, that's a Victory. I can't believe you're even arguing this, especially since CT has now posted a pic of an ISD in the same book.

Thats the one I'm talking about that wasn't in the movie! Do you see the large pole sticking out of the top? The guide calls it a communication tower, that is the huge antenna I was talking about! That's the one that was never in the movies.

That's because it's a Victory class, not an Imperial. Der.

The Victory class in the Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels IS THE ONE IN THE FILMS. Jesus Christ. You guys are really off on this, you have no idea. Post the pic from the Guide of the one called Victory class and see what people say. Post it, please. It will end this.

Indeed, it has, you are so wrong it's embarassing. What kind of SW geek are you, when you can't even tell the difference between a 700m long Victory and a 1600m long Imperial?

But thank you Sketch for posting pics of the IMPERIAL CLASS Stardestroyer for me. That's the one that IS NOT in the films. That's not victory, its imperial. You need the rest of the page where the title of the ship is. That's only part of the page.

LOL. This is ridiculous.

And Vympel, poor little Vympel, those aren't the antenna.

That's the tractor beam targeting array of the ships in the films. They're antenna.

The antenna is the large pole in the pics of the Imperial Class Stardestroyer that Sketch posted.

No, the Victory-class. Learn the difference for god's sake.

You posted two models of what the EU calls Victory class with two very slightly different "array's" on them.

This continued inability to tell the difference between a Kuat Drive Yards Imperial Star Destroyer and a Rendili Victory Star Destroyer is hilarious.

The "array" in the middle isn't an antenna. You know that metal pole sticking out of most cars? That's called an antenna. So I guess you are still out of your league as you are still totally and uterrly wrong. Hmmm. Too bad.

ROFLMAO. Guess what the dish component of a radar (any radar: fighter, ship, ground based) is called? The antenna. Genius. Don't know much, huh?

All we need to settle this is for someone to please explain to me how to post pics on here without having to go to another sight to do it. Perhaps I can email them to people? I have the Guide and a scanner, I'll send you a pic of an Imperial, and one of the Victory, with the title clearly on the top of the page. That's why I know you're wrong. I have the guide right here. The Imperial clearly wasn't in the film, and the Victory looks just like the ones in the films. And that's from Lucas film so whatever old grainy pics you want to post, go right ahead, it's just making you look more and more foolish.

Yeah, whatever, illiterate-man. Learn how to read "Imperial" and "Victroy" apart, what version of the Guide do you have, Portugese or something?

there, that's a link to the detail page of the victory class. Looks like the one in the movie right? That's cuz its based on models used in the films.

This is truly amazing. He posts a pic of an Imperial, calls it a Victory, even though the file itself is CALLED ISDSCHM. What do you think ISD stands for, smart guy?

Originally posted by ctsketch
These fins, man, notice the wing like protrusions

http://www.kolumbus.fi/antti.lusila/starwars/pics/vsd12.jpg

http://home.wlu.edu/~overholtzerc/swguides/images/vsdschm.jpg

nothing in OT has ever looked that way

BTW ctsketch, where did you get that first pic? It is awsome. That is the first time I have seen a model of the VCSD. Everything else has been drawings.

Look, I know your pic SAYS victory, I saw the same pic on google. But in the book, under Imperial Class Stardestroyer, is the image you've posted. And under Victory class, is the pic I posted. You have to find a pic with the WHOLE PAGE so you can see the title. The pic I pulled was off google too, and its labeled wrong. I'm looking at the book right now, I can see what pages go to what pic. Give me your email or something and I'll send you a scan of the entire page. If I PM you, can I send pics attached somehow? I'm going by the book, which is in my hand, I'm looking at it right now. If I didn't have the book in front of me, I wouldn't even be in this debate. Give me a method of sending or posting the WHOLE PAGE with titles, and I'll send/post them, I promise.