Originally posted by King Castle
i'm saying Wolverine would never allow himself to be battlefield remove and colossus has never bn able to do it when they have fought when logan isnt possessed.
Logan has been BFR'd in the past, it is plausable that it can happen with
Colossus str.
This would be alot better after the whole wolverine possession series.
Also are you saying that if colossus grabs wolverine he can't launch him, that's what it sounds like you are infering.
Originally posted by snowdragonbut if you cant proof colossus doing it then it cant happen..
Logan has been BFR'd in the past, it is plausable that it can happen with
Colossus str.This would be alot better after the whole wolverine possession series.
this is the same argument that colossus fans have bn using regardless of logan cutting alien metals, dense metals, dense organic beings. etc etc..
Originally posted by King Castle
i'm saying Wolverine would never allow himself to be battlefield remove and colossus has never bn able to do it when they have fought when logan isnt possessed.
You're reaching a bit here don't you think? Colossus can throw objects pretty much into orbit. Wolverine weighs what? 300 lbs?
Wolverine isn't Spiderman, his fighting style isn't about evasion, it's about striking and soaking hits most of the time.
Ok, I'm not a Colossus scan and the Respect thread's pics are broken. Can someone post a link of Colossus grabbing non-possessed Wolverine in a combat situation?
Originally posted by King Castle
but if you cant proof colossus doing it then it cant happen..this is the same argument that colossus fans have bn using regardless of logan cutting alien metals, dense metals, dense organic beings. etc etc..
That would be incorrect:
It has been shown that Colossus can throw Wolverine as per their cannonball special, where as it has not been shown Wolverine cutting him.
Originally posted by snowdragonwth?!
That would be incorrect:It has been shown that Colossus can throw Wolverine as per their cannonball special, where as it has not been shown Wolverine cutting him.
that's not what i am saying listen carefully.
Colossus has thrown logan when logan has allowed it.. i never said colossus cant. but, it's never bn shown colossus able to battlefield remove wolverine while in battle hence no evidence of him doing that then it cant be used. same logic ppl argiuing colossus cant be cut b/c wolverine has never cut him but logan has scoured bit and cut metal's above colossus from adamantium resistance metals, carbonadium coils, even Omega's armor that once was near impossible for logan to damage.
Logan has scratched and stabbed ppl who have shown in the past to be uninjured by adamantium bladed weapons yet still get cut once they fight wolverine...
ppl like Death head are denser and more resistant then colossus and he has bn cut by wolverine as well.. and DH2 frame was near equal to adamantium itself that it manage to break off an alternate version of wolverine's claw when logan stabbed it.. yet, 616 wolverine still gouged out its chest and severed its arm with claw strikes. and Dh2 is a 100+ being that manhandled thing and has fought the hulk...
hell, colossus iirc had one of wolverine's claws from an alternate possible future casually thrown at him and get stabbed in the shoulder.. the guy didnt put any force in the throw he flicked it at him... iirc. of course it was sym so you can go ahead and dismiss this but the Dh2 stands.
Originally posted by King Castle
wth?!that's not what i am saying listen carefully.
Colossus has thrown logan when logan has allowed it.. i never said colossus cant. but, it's never bn shown colossus able to battlefield remove wolverine while in battle hence no evidence of him doing that then it cant be used.
So your argument is that Wolverine is too fast/too good for Colossus to grab him?
Cuz he's certainly not too heavy.
Originally posted by King Castle
wth?!that's not what i am saying listen carefully.
I heard you perfectly.
Logan allowing Colossuss to throw him doesn't negate the fact Colossuss has been show to throw him, logan hasn't been shown to cut him.
That's how it is currently, let's leave things like mass out of this because RL has very little to do with comic debates.
Originally posted by King Castle
even Omega's armor that once was near impossible for logan to damage.
Logan has scratched and stabbed ppl who have shown in the past to be uninjured by adamantium bladed weapons yet still get cut once they fight wolverine...
And why is that? Did Wolverine get a strength upgrade? Did their armor diminish? Did he hit them from a better angle/more leverage? etc.
What is your logical argument here?
Originally posted by D_Dude1210logan's swipes failed to damage it some he used repeated swipes to weaken metals till he could finally cut through... other times he got so mad he pushed his claws with all his rage to stab clean through...
And why is that? Did Wolverine get a strength upgrade? Did their armor diminish? Did he hit them from a better angle/more leverage? etc.What is your logical argument here?
Omega red one could be explained by writers ignoring old powersets or logan getting naturally stronger then his past self.