Doom & FF vs Thanos

I've only read of three times that the Tribunal had to be asked to intervene:

Infinity Gauntlet - LT didn't think think that Thanos was doing anything wrong ie. only wanted to replace Eternity (the strong replace the weak) is supposedly one of the oldest canons hence no intervention on the LT's part

Warlock & the Infinity Watch - LT had to intervene because he didn't think Warlock was fit to be supreme being

What if - Korvac obtained enormous amount of cosmic power via Galactus worldship so some cosmic beings asked the LT to intervene but before judgement some cosmics tried to attack Korvac on their own but got beat then absorbed by Korvac. LT's judgement was to kill Korvac via making the sun go supernova (weak I know), Korvac shielded himself and the LT gave up and left.

The Living Tribunal, the most powerful force in existence, the closest Marvel depiction of the God of the multiverse gave up and left?! That's absolutely pathetic. That's a testament to the writers: 'well, we've reached our 30 page limit, so let's just say he gives up and leaves.' Nice.

I thought it was a weak ending. The LT sends Galactus, Shaper, Elders and a bunch of other cosmic beings against Korvac, he sees them get beaten and all he could come up with was making the sun go supernova. What the..?!

Omniscient, omnipotent beings tend to be lazy bastards. I know I am 😉

Originally posted by Krissy Von Doom
Just using the power gem? This is in reference to the battle against the earth heroes in IG I assume? He wasn't just using the Power Gem even though he said he would, or else how was he able to send Firelord and Drax back in time during that battle?

Thanos DID have one of the power orbs Tyrant was collecting however how do you know it was Morg's power that was inside? On a related note, during the first half of that battle against Tyrant, Thanos only had his own power to use and when he was being badly beaten he reached for one of the orbs and used it against Tyrant.

The Time Gem was primarily for Chronos.

Re: Morg's power, Cosmic Powers #5/#6. And as powerful as Tyrant was, Thanos being smacked around at normal power levels was nothing to be ashamed of.

Yes, the Time Gem was primarily for Chronos. However, when he said he would only use the Power Gem against the heroes, he wasn't telling the truth as he used the Time Gem to send Firelord and Drax back in time.

i didnt read much of the thread, but i thought i'd throw in my 2 cents. yes i'm going to bring up The Heart Of The Universe again.......

who succeeded when doom failed (doom played a major roll in this comic, and he did have a plan that altimately failed, thanos even comments on how his thinking wasnt good enough, and doom says that thanos spy equipment -IS- better) i got the answer...... thanos succeeded.

who succeeded when all the fantastic 4 avengers and xmen had been wiped out rather easily???? thanos. he bows before no one. he would prevail in this fight, and nobody on this forum will convince me otherwise. marvel has made him basically an untouchable god. if you defeat him they will retcon it faster than shit

I still say they give Thanos hell, whether they succeed of fail. Thanos would always remember the names of the Fantastic Four and Doom.

well i think it was necessary to beat them...otherwise there would be no story...they cant win all the time or be unbeatable...otherwise my argument would be "because they cant lose!"...no they can lose...however, I posted information and events that support why they would win

Originally posted by Tron
I still say they give Thanos hell, whether they succeed of fail. Thanos would always remember the names of the Fantastic Four and Doom.

Well Doom isn't a name you're likely to forget. It's fairly unique. As for the FF, I bet he'll remember the name, but he probably won't remember each of them. "The FF, yeah, that stretchy guy, the hot girl, the flaming dude, and that rock-covered freak...'

Originally posted by wrathofachilles
He was his '*****' in the IG storyline. Not in reality time. Besides, he had no qualms whatsoever about betraying Thanos. Mephisto wouldn't do a damn thing that Thanos told him to do unless it meant he was in actuality the one manipulating Thanos.

I take it you haven't read Thanos' 12 issue series that just ended a few months ago? Mephisto makes an appearance on Thanos' ship. Thanos and Adam Warlock are standing around chatting, with mephisto on the side, and after Thanos gets what he wants from Mephisto(a promise that Mephisto actually keeps) he basically says "Ok, I'm done with you. What are you still doing here? **** off".

Of course, Thanos used bigger words.

I haven't read anything in a year. And I'm pretty sure Thanos didn't say '**** off.' Again, I know Thanos doesn't fear Mephisto, but in no way would Mephisto bend over and say please sir. He'd grumble and say 'screw you' and walk off. There's a big difference, lol.

Thanos and Warlock 'chat?' Thought they were arch-enemies.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
I take it you haven't read Thanos' 12 issue series that just ended a few months ago? Mephisto makes an appearance on Thanos' ship. Thanos and Adam Warlock are standing around chatting, with mephisto on the side, and after Thanos gets what he wants from Mephisto(a promise that Mephisto actually keeps) he basically says "Ok, I'm done with you. What are you still doing here? **** off".

Of course, Thanos used bigger words.

Didn't this chat happen in Infinity Crusade when Warlock and Thanos were devising a plan to beat the Goddess? Mephisto shows up and tells Thanos some stuff about the Goddess in exchange for a cosmic cube, I think.

Originally posted by Krissy Von Doom
The Fantastic Four and Dr Doom team up to take down Thanos, both parties have one day prep time. Who takes the win?

Team

Thanos just turned Galactus into a weapon for his own use, in addition to successfully channeling cosmic power into anything he desired.

He fully understands the nature of the power cosmic now & Galactus' tech

Doom would make it difficult in a straight up battle - the FF on the other hand would straight-up just die outright (except maybe Sue)

Ok, I hate to be the one who defends Thanos, but some points:

- Thanos already tricked Mephisto.
- Thanos KNOWS Doom, he has said that Victor is one of the beings he keeps tags on, which only talks good about Thanos planning. He is not underestimating him in this battle.
- Thanos is smart, but not "building a radio" smart like Richards, he wont go around making useless trinkets when he has the means and the brains to get the legendary artifacts already on existance. Let the flunkies play with legos, Thanos will just pick an already built castle and live there. How is that not smart? Dont judge Thanos because he doesnt go around building stuff.

There was a direct comparison between Doom and Thanos' tech in The: End and Doom admitted Thanos' tech was far beyond his own. The editor of Annihilation said he is smarter than everyone on Earth including Reed. He is one of the smartest beings in Marvel.

Hes beaten Super Skrull with ease and Doom is no match for Thanos. He would win this.

Give Doom and Reed 3 days of prep and Thanos zero and the fight will be a lot more fair ✅