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Physically, Goku isn't even close to being as strong as either Colossus or Thing & a GL would annilhate Goku.

Goku is still faster than both, and as a SSJ3 he would probably be stronger than Thing.

lol thing tries to punch goku. goku evades and laughs his ass off. thing throws a car at goku, goku drinks a smoothie. then goku blows the thing into a billion pieces

same for collosus

In a pure fist fight Gokou isn't going to be beating Colossus or Thing easy if at all. I think Gokou would have a hard time against Human Torch also even if he was using all his abilities.

funny seeing as he's FASTER than all of them.

Originally posted by Kento
In a pure fist fight Gokou isn't going to be beating Colossus or Thing easy if at all. I think Gokou would have a hard time against Human Torch also even if he was using all his abilities.

exactly. goku can beat that easily anyways. the 40 tons thing was comical at best. plus seeing as his power raises exponentially with each transformation, hes stronger than thing ne ways

It never says how much stronger he gets each form. And without going past ssj at least he isn't going to be able to hurt Ben.

well that depends on what part of the series/ manga we're in doesnt it. credit goes to phen for reminding me of this. piccolo destroyed the moon in the vegeta saga. ben dies

What Piccolo did with a blast doesn't mean anything when it comes to H2H fighting. And the same type of blast barley scratches the Earths surface in later sagas.

poiint is goku rips thing in half and gets hungry and goes on a eating spree for 24 hours

How is stating what Piccolo did with a blast any point at all? Gokou was only shown to be able to lift 40 tons but it never says how much stronger each ssj level gets. Who knows if he even could reach 100 tons or if he'd go to thousands of tons. I think he'd go a bit over 100 tons at ssj3 along with some other people but that's still a assumption just like any other strength over 40 tons is. So with what is shown he isn't going to be ripping Thing in half or hurting him even if he can move faster.

Now if Gokou used his ki attacks he'd beat Thing easily but I think Human Torch could give him a fight with Gokou using Ki.

Goku was able to lift 40 tons in SSJ form as easily as 2 tons were in his base form. We can assume his strength multiplies by 20. In SSJ2 it would be 800, and in SSJ3 it's 16,000. This is only an assumption that this is the way his power does increase, mind you.

It's hard to actually put him anywhere past 40 tons since it wasn't shown and it never says how much his strength actually would increase next levels. He may double or he may stay the same at ssj2 while quadruple at ssj3. It's to much guess work.

It is a fact that he was easily moving with the 40 tons dude. Every SSJ level his strength increases, I mean, come one, it's not known how much but it does increase.

Yes I know. But the strength being the same at ssj and ssj2 is just as vaild a guess as him going to 80 tons or over 100 tons at ssj2. That was just my point. Nobody knows.

How about the fact that Gohan's punches did more damage to Cell at SSJ2 than SSJ?

I don't mean he doesn't get stronger at ssj2. I know he does.

clearly punching power increases. therefore strength increases. duh