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I never said it didn't. And even so it still is never defined except from base to ssj.

For one, chickenlover is a horrible debator, he never states any facts or posts any scans. Secondly, it's nothing but crap to say Goku can easily lift 16,000 tons in his SSJ3 form, that's pure blasphemy & stupidty.

Not really. Its just a guess as is 160 tons or 100 tons or anything else. If Gokou's power doubled each time he'd probably be in the 200 tons. But it may do more than double and it may be in the thousands of tons. That's why we can't use what his strength could be but what was shown. Even if it was only at ssj and 40 tons.

Originally posted by Mirai Gohan
For one, chickenlover is a horrible debator, he never states any facts or posts any scans. Secondly, it's nothing but crap to say Goku can easily lift 16,000 tons in his SSJ3 form, that's pure blasphemy & stupidty.

Yeah, we don't know but it sure as hell isn't anywhere near 16,000 tons.

well im going to say it rises considerably. clearly it doesnt move in a linear pattern. if he can go from not being able to move 4 tons to say 40. thats an increase of 10 times the weight if he continued at that. thatd put him at atleast 4000 tons. if it doesnt rise more than that. why would i need to post scans btw. i dunno how to find em, plus i have other monkeys to do that for me.

i do wish however that toryama would clarify goku's strength

That would not put him at 4,000 tons. At the most he can lift 200 tons in his SSJ3 form, that's it. He's not pushing a 1,000 tons at all.

gohan, im basin it of an multiple of ten

Gohan you've got as much proof he's 200 tons as there is that he's 4000 tons. So really its all just guessing. There are so many variables to what he could lift. Heck at ssj3 he could only lift 80 tons. Nobody'll ever know.

well kento, im just doin math man. if ya can find a diff equation be my guest, im up for it 🙂

Dude, I don't know what kind of math you're doing but he wouldn't go from 40 ton 4,000.

Base Goku - 2 tons
Super Saiyan - 40 tons
Super Saiyan 2 - 78
Super Saiyan 3 - 111

That's just going by the fact his strength increased from 2 to 40 which is is 38 up. Now, it could very well increase higher than that.

Base Goku - 2 tons
Super Saiyan - 40 tons
Super Saiyan 2 - 90 tons
Super Saiyan 3 - 150 tons

That's probably the highest his strength will increase & if it's more, it'd be no more than than 200-300 tons, no DBZ character is stronger than that, especially when they are struggling to move mountains & such.

Even 4,000 tons is nothing compared to the likes of Superman, the Silver Surfer, Galactus, Marvel Zeus, Captain Marvel, etc. There are many Marvel/DC heroes & villains that would whoop Goku's ass without a problem & wouldn't even have to try.

Originally posted by Kento
Gokou would be out of his league against a GL.

Hal Jordan beats his ass. Goku's cool and all but he is the most overrated anime character ever, Most Flashes could take him out, barry, wally, bart, even Jay might be able to do it.

Well Gokou was doing what 2.5 tons easily at ssj so he could have been 3 to 5 tons base but he was under 10 tons that's all is known. Then he went to 40 tons easily so he was over 40 tons maybe 45 or 50 would be my estimate but that's just me. So say Gokou is 5 tons max at base then goes to 45 tons at ssj. That would be a 40 ton strength increase at ssj level. Maybe at ssj2 he'd get a boost of 80 tons in strength double of what ssj gave him. Then at ssj3 he goes 160 tons higher. It could go like that.

Base - 5
SSJ - 45 - 50
SSJ2 - 125 - 130
SSJ3 - 285 - 290

Any thing I can think of that would be reasonable would still make him low cl100 even at ssj3. That would be what I think Gokou is at.

Also Gokou has speed on his side so there are some cl100's he could easily take out at just being ssj2 h2h because they are slower. Thing, Colossus, any of Hulk's Warbound are just the top of my head. Maybe Mortal Herc.

Originally posted by superkronick92
Hal Jordan beats his ass. Goku's cool and all but he is the most overrated anime character ever, Most Flashes could take him out, barry, wally, bart, even Jay might be able to do it.

😕 Though now I got a picture of Gokou the Green Lantern in my head.

Originally posted by Kento
Well Gokou was doing what 2.5 tons easily at ssj so he could have been 3 to 5 tons base but he was under 10 tons that's all is known. Then he went to 40 tons easily so he was over 40 tons maybe 45 or 50 would be my estimate but that's just me. So say Gokou is 5 tons max at base then goes to 45 tons at ssj. That would be a 40 ton strength increase at ssj level. Maybe at ssj2 he'd get a boost of 80 tons in strength double of what ssj gave him. Then at ssj3 he goes 160 tons higher. It could go like that.

Base - 5
SSJ - 45 - 50
SSJ2 - 125 - 130
SSJ3 - 285 - 290

Any thing I can think of that would be reasonable would still make him low cl100 even at ssj3. That would be what I think Gokou is at.

Also Gokou has speed on his side so there are some cl100's he could easily take out at just being ssj2 h2h because they are slower. Thing, Colossus, any of Hulk's Warbound are just the top of my head. Maybe Mortal Herc.

His maximum in his base form was probably no more than five since he thought 10 tons was too much to handle. But, I don't think his strength in his Super Saiyan form was anywhere past 45.

I'm just giving what I think it would be. And he was doing 40 tons effortlessly so his max isn't really known. He could be a lot stronger than 50 tons it's really hard to gauge since he doesn't do anything with his strength.

DBZ characters are really weak physically.

Compared to people like Superman, and Hulk sure but they aren't physically weak compared to most Earth-based heroes. I mean there are tons of street levelers in terms of strength but they make up for it with power. Some not even strong at all just very powerful.