The Official DragonBall Z thread

Started by Violent2Dope216 pages

Originally posted by Kento
Well isn't Juggernaut fully invulnerable so Superman shouldn't be able to hurt him at all right while he could hurt Superman if he the will to get on his level. So it would be a big stalemate if Juggernaut just kept his regular strength level.
He wouldn't tho, and even his regular strength level is past 100 tons. It is possible to hurt Juggy, but it is very rare for it to happen.

The Hulk wouldn't even be able to get that angry, he'd get his ass kicked long before then.

Originally posted by Kal-El_08
Bullshit. He has the potential to become stronger, but not stronger than Superman. Superman could just knock his ass out before it even gets to that point.
Superman could do a lot to Hulk before Hulk got even angry. Lobotomize him, throw him into the sun, knock him out with his speed and strength. But he isn't going to knock out Hulk if he does like he always does and would get beat. And Hulk has limitless potential in his strength yes he can get stronger than Superman. In character Hulk has a chance to take out Superman. If Superman used what he has then Hulk has no chance sure but then Hulk wouldn't be brawling with him so it wouldn't matter.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
He wouldn't tho, and even his regular strength level is past 100 tons. It is possible to hurt Juggy, but it is very rare for it to happen.
Is it possible to hurt Juggernaut with strength alone or does it have to be with like a magic attack or something?

Originally posted by Kento
Superman could do a lot to Hulk before Hulk got even angry. Lobotomize him, throw him into the sun, knock him out with his speed and strength. But he isn't going to knock out Hulk if he does like he always does and would get beat. And Hulk has limitless potential in his strength yes he can get stronger than Superman. In character Hulk has a chance to take out Superman. If Superman used what he has then Hulk has no chance sure but then Hulk wouldn't be brawling with him so it wouldn't matter. Is it possible to hurt Juggernaut with strength alone or does it have to be with like a magic attack or something?

I actually think the whole Hulk having the potential to become stronger than the Hulk as he becomes angrier is bogus. He can't possibly match Superman's strength just by becoming angry. Yes, he could become much stronger, but that's it, he can't become as strong as Superman. In a straight out brawl, Hulk gets his ass handed to him 8/10.

Originally posted by Kento
Is it possible to hurt Juggernaut with strength alone or does it have to be with like a magic attack or something?
I'm not sure. Didn't Hulk shatter a meteor twice the size of earth with a punch once?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I'm not sure. Didn't Hulk shatter a meteor twice the size of earth with a punch once?

Yes, he did, he also ripped the core out of a planet without a problem.

Originally posted by Kal-El_08
I actually think the whole Hulk having the potential to become stronger than the Hulk as he becomes angrier is bogus. He can't possibly match Superman's strength just by becoming angry. Yes, he could become much stronger, but that's it, he can't become as strong as Superman. In a straight out brawl, Hulk gets his ass handed to him 10/10.
And what proof is there that Hulk can only get so strong? Just because his strength is based on rage doesn't mean he can only get so strong.

Juggy IMO is the only one with potentially unlimited strength. You can only get so mad.

Originally posted by Kento
And what proof is there that Hulk can only get so strong? Just because his strength is based on rage doesn't mean he can only get so strong.

Wrong. Everyone gets stronger a little when they become super angry & anger is the source of the Hulk's power. One can only become so angry in which whenever the Hulk becomes his angriest, he'll have reached his limits. Anger is not something that keeps going & going, it stops somewhere.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Juggy IMO is the only one with potentially unlimited strength. You can only get so mad.

Yeah, since his powers are magic based, the Juggernaut probably has unlimited strength as does Superman since he's always soaking up solar energy & is always becoming stronger from the energy he's soaking up.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I'm not sure. Didn't Hulk shatter a meteor twice the size of earth with a punch once?
Yes, though for some reason most people in KMC comic forums always say it wasn't just his strength and I've never read the comic.

Originally posted by Kal-El_08
Yeah, since his powers are magic based, the Juggernaut probably has unlimited strength as does Superman since he's always soaking up solar energy & is always becoming stronger from the energy he's soaking up.
Yep. Juggy would have a good fight with Supes, he may not be as fast, but he won't go down as easy as Hulk, and his magical nature may help him.

Nah, I've seen the scan & he shattered that meteor pretty effortlessly.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Yep. Juggy would have a good fight with Supes, he may not be as fast, but he won't go down as easy as Hulk, and his magical nature may help him.

Yep, the magic is what would give Juggy that major advantage in any battle he'd have with Superman.

Originally posted by Kal-El_08
Wrong. Everyone gets stronger a little when they become super angry & anger is the source of the Hulk's power. One can only become so angry in which whenever the Hulk becomes his angriest, he'll have reached his limits. Anger is not something that keeps going & going, it stops somewhere.
And yet Hulk has been stated plenty of times to have limitless energy. Also he always just keeps getting angrier and angrier.

Originally posted by Kal-El_08
Yep, the magic is what would give Juggy that major advantage in any battle he'd have with Superman.
Yeah, both tool Hulk tho lol. How do you think Apocalypse would fare against Supes?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Yeah, both tool Hulk tho lol. How do you think Apocalypse would fare against Supes?

Apocalypse is pretty strong, he might be able to beat Supes.

Originally posted by Kento
And yet Hulk has been stated plenty of times to have limitless energy. Also he always just keeps getting angrier and angrier.

What part of anger has it's limits don't you understand?

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Yeah, both tool Hulk tho lol. How do you think Apocalypse would fare against Supes?
I know next to nothing about Apocalypse so I don't know. Though if the X-Men can beat him..Supes really shouldn't have a problem.

Apocalypse is pretty damn strong though.