Originally posted by Kento
Hulk's rage makes him stronger a lot faster than Superman's absorbing solar energy over time. Superman's healing factor also isn't as good as Hulk's. Hulk has a healing factor that rivals Logan's and that help Logan stay in fights against people complete out of his league strength wise like Savage Hulk it would work the same for Hulk against Thor who would probably be stronger to begin with and Superman who would be stronger to begin with. If they just brawl with him he's going to be able to soak up the damage, and grow stronger than them. Superman and Thor have better options to get rid of Hulk than trying to out muscle him.
You can only become so angry & with that, the Hulk can only become so strong from becoming angry. Btw, I never said Superman's healing factor rivals the Hulk's because it doesn't, however, Superman is still stronger. the Hulk's base strength is what? 100 tons? Superman can lift far more than that. Superman is stronger than the Hulk. End of story.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeYea doesn't Strange have some kind of auto-shields that keep Superman from just killing him before he can do anything? I think I read that in one of the versus threads involving Strange. I didn't know Juggernaut's strength was tied to his will. Interesting.
Actually, Juggernaut has more potential than Hulk in terms of strength, his strength is only limited by his will. I concede the Thor thing, he was the one I was least sure about, tho the others would crush him. Strange would shitstomp Supes easily, he is/was Sorcerer Supreme for a reason.
Originally posted by Kal-El_08Except that Hulk's strength doesn't have a set boost with how angry he gets. And he's been said to have limitless strength. And a angry Hulk is way above Logan yet Logan can take his punches. Hulk's durability, healing factor, and strength all increase with his rage. Superman isn't going to just go and one shot a Hulk who in a straight up fight if he decided to brawl with him. Maybe if he used his speed before Hulk could even move but if Supes just exchanges punches he's going to get a horrible beating even if he does edge out a win.
You can only become so angry & with that, the Hulk can only become so strong from becoming angry. Btw, I never said Superman's healing factor rivals the Hulk's because it doesn't, however, Superman is still stronger. the Hulk's base strength is what? 100 tons? Superman can lift far more than that. Superman is stronger than the Hulk. End of story.
Originally posted by Kento
Yea doesn't Strange have some kind of auto-shields that keep Superman from just killing him before he can do anything? I think I read that in one of the versus threads involving Strange. I didn't know Juggernaut's strength was tied to his will. Interesting. Except that Hulk's strength doesn't have a set boost with how angry he gets. And he's been said to have limitless strength. And a angry Hulk is way above Logan yet Logan can take his punches. Hulk's durability, healing factor, and strength all increase with his rage. Superman isn't going to just go and one shot a Hulk who in a straight up fight if he decided to brawl with him. Maybe if he used his speed before Hulk could even move but if Supes just exchanges punches he's going to get a horrible beating even if he does edge out a win.
Seriously, it's just like you're stating the Hulk is as strong as Superman which is bullshit & you are wrong. The Hulk is nowhere near Superman's level & never will be. Superman wouldn't get a horrible beating from any incarnation of the Hulk, Superman would beat the shit out of the Hulk. END OF STORY.
Originally posted by Kento1. Yeah, he does. Juggernaut's strength is indeed tied to his will, if he had the will he could fight one on one with Supes, and he has a healing factor, and is more durable than most in Marvel or DC. He also has a shield that he can use.
Yea doesn't Strange have some kind of auto-shields that keep Superman from just killing him before he can do anything? I think I read that in one of the versus threads involving Strange. I didn't know Juggernaut's strength was tied to his will. Interesting.Except that Hulk's strength doesn't have a set boost with how angry he gets. And he's been said to have limitless strength. And a angry Hulk is way above Logan yet Logan can take his punches. Hulk's durability, healing factor, and strength all increase with his rage. Superman isn't going to just go and one shot a Hulk who in a straight up fight if he decided to brawl with him. Maybe if he used his speed before Hulk could even move but if Supes just exchanges punches he's going to get a horrible beating even if he does edge out a win.
2. He is potentially stronger than Supes, but he would have to get VERY pissed. Supes could also just lobotomize his ass with his eye lasers.
To WHITEBEARD: Supes would speedblitz the shit out of him. Pyron beats Goku and Supes at the same time with his fists. There is always someone stronger.
Originally posted by Kal-El_08No, Hulk isn't strong as Superman he just has the potential to do it and with the healing factor he stand a chance to keep pounding on Superman with stronger and stronger hits while Superman pounds on him if Supes fights like that and Superman would loose more energy than Hulk
Seriously, it's just like you're stating the Hulk is as strong as Superman which is bullshit & you are wrong. The Hulk is nowhere near Superman's level & never will be. Superman wouldn't get a horrible beating from any incarnation of the Hulk, Superman would beat the shit out of the Hulk. END OF STORY.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeIsn't it above 100 tons now?
Hulk's base strength is 90 tons I think.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Yeah, he does. Juggernaut's strength is indeed tied to his will, if he had the will he could fight one on one with Supes, and he has a healing factor, and is more durable than most in Marvel or DC. He also has a shield that he can use.2. He is potentially stronger than Supes, but he would have to get VERY pissed. Supes could also just lobotomize his ass with his eye lasers.
To WHITEBEARD: Supes would speedblitz the shit out of him. Pyron beats Goku and Supes at the same time with his fists. There is always someone stronger.
Agreed & quoted for truth.
Originally posted by Kento
No, Hulk isn't strong as Superman he just has the potential to do it and with the healing factor he stand a chance to keep pounding on Superman with stronger and stronger hits while Superman pounds on him if Supes fights like that and Superman would loose more energy than HulkIsn't it above 100 tons now?
Bullshit. He has the potential to become stronger, but not stronger than Superman. Superman could just knock his ass out before it even gets to that point.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeWell isn't Juggernaut fully invulnerable so Superman shouldn't be able to hurt him at all right while he could hurt Superman if he the will to get on his level. So it would be a big stalemate if Juggernaut just kept his regular strength level.
1. Yeah, he does. Juggernaut's strength is indeed tied to his will, if he had the will he could fight one on one with Supes, and he has a healing factor, and is more durable than most in Marvel or DC. He also has a shield that he can use.2. He is potentially stronger than Supes, but he would have to get VERY pissed. Supes could also just lobotomize his ass with his eye lasers.
To WHITEBEARD: Supes would speedblitz the shit out of him. Pyron beats Goku and Supes at the same time with his fists. There is always someone stronger.
Originally posted by WHITEBEARDThe same can be said for the Z crew...but that'll just start a versus that's been going on way to long.
You wanna talk about speeed........Supes has no combat speed his fights can be watched by NORMAL humans. 😎