Homosexuality: Chosen or Genetic?

Started by Capt_Fantastic324 pages

Originally posted by whobdamandog

Let me ask you this question..did you choose to be born?

Did you choose to have two legs?

Did you choose to have two arms?

Do you think a man chooses to stick his peeper in another man's poop shot?

Don't be silly..all of these things are genetic...

Did the chicken choose any of these things either?

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Ridiculous...first of all everyone in the world is just about straight..being gay is the same as any other minority..you don't choose to engage in rectal sex..we are born wanting to do it...same goes for jumping off of buildings...people who have bad tempers..people who like to eat human flesh..all of this can be traced to genetics...in fact..nothing is a choice.

Let me ask you this question..did you choose to be born?

Did you choose to have two legs?

Did you choose to have two arms?

Do you think a man chooses to stick his peeper in another man's poop shot?

Don't be silly..all of these things are genetic...

How do you work that one out you do have choices obviously not in your basic genetic structure but in decisions we make they are choices. If everyone in the world is just about straight then why is there at any given time Gay Gay Gay on the television newspaper and Radio????

And No being Gay isn't like any other minority when do you see Jews etc paradeing down the street acting like attention seeking children god stick a banner over your heads saying LOOK AT ME I'M GAY where's my attention.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
If you want to know my opinion, look back through this thread. You will find that gay rights and gay pride are, in my opinion, disadvantages that only serve to further the divide between the two.

They're you go again..you LIE..

you post some drivel and then you LIE.

Where did I say there are no absolute truths..I just stated that the truth can be perceived in different ways.

You misinterpret and cut and paste everything everyone says..

🙄

Originally posted by whobdamandog
Why do you force your beliefs on others..it's quite possible that you are right..but you could very well be wrong.

I'm not doin that. It is not my belief it's a common belief from a christian/catholic church I'm Atheist but My family is Christian so know quite a lot of what the bible teaches

Originally posted by Darth_Midal
And No being Gay isn't like any other minority when do you see Jews etc paradeing down the street acting like attention seeking children god stick a banner over your heads saying LOOK AT ME I'M GAY where's my attention.

Yes, being gay is like any other minority, in that they are not granted the same rights as the "majority" or given the same respect.

Think about why people are participating in gay pride events the next time you kiss your girlfriend in public, or hold her hand while you're walking down the street or even taking her children to the doctor for her.

Originally posted by Darth_Midal
just got two points to make. The first is if you look at the subject of Homosexuality from a religious point of view the proof is here that it is a choice. All children are born free of sin and Homosexuality condems your soul to hell as a sin (according to the bible) therefore Homosexuality is a choice because children aren't born into sin. The second is not about whether it's a choice or genetic it's about the notion of Gay Pride days when was the last time we held a straight pride day where we got to parade the streets proclaiming how proud we are to be straight. Why does the Homosexual community find it necessary to hold such ridiculous days????

Homosexuality needs to be a behavior in order to fit in with the principle that it is a sin which can be overcome. Under the traditional Christian conception of morality, sins are behaviors which we all choose and which, at least in theory, we can choose not to engage in. If homosexuality were defined as an orientation, it would be very difficult to maintain the idea that it is a sin.

The first gay pride parade started as a protest against discrimination and violence against gays in New York City. Today, it has become an annual ritual.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
They're you go again..you LIE..

you post some drivel and then you LIE.

Where did I say there are no absolute truths..I just stated that the truth can be perceived in different ways.

You misinterpret and cut and paste everything everyone says..

🙄

Oh no "my friend", that is your tactic.

And if you're referring to my comments about "gay rights" and gay pride, there's no lie. I've said a dozen times that I do not seek gay rights.

Originally posted by Darth_Midal
How do you work that one out you do have choices obviously not in your basic genetic structure but in decisions we make they are choices. If everyone in the world is just about straight then why is there at any given time Gay Gay Gay on the television newspaper and Radio????

And No being Gay isn't like any other minority when do you see Jews etc paradeing down the street acting like attention seeking children god stick a banner over your heads saying LOOK AT ME I'M GAY where's my attention.

First of all...being Gay doesn't necessarily mean being a "Homosexual"

Dictionary definitions are "lexical" by nature...

The word "gay" can mean a multitude of things...

What if you looked at things differently..what if instead of saying "Gay" pride Parade..you said "Happy" pride Parade..

Your second argument commits the fallacy of the strawman..we're not talking about gay being a minority, we're talking about a "minority" being gay..

So in a nutshell, yes it is a choice..but yes..it is also genetic..

Originally posted by Darth_Midal
I'm not doin that. It is not my belief it's a common belief from a christian/catholic church I'm Atheist but My family is Christian so know quite a lot of what the bible teaches

Don't be fooled Midal, he agrees with a majority of what you're saying, he's just trying to get screen time for his opinion. You're not saying anything he hasn't already said in a number of other threads. He's just baiting you into posting your opinion.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
First of all...being Gay doesn't necessarily mean being a "Homosexual"

Dictionary definitions are "lexical" by nature...

The word "gay" can mean a multitude of things...

What if you looked at things differently..what if instead of saying "Gay" pride Parade..you said "Happy" pride Parade..

Your second argument commits the fallacy of the strawman..we're not talking about gay being a minority, we're talking about a "minority" being gay..

So in a nutshell, yes it is a choice..but yes..it is also genetic..


I don't get it.

It doesn't make any sense.

Homosexuals are a minority. Minorities may also be homosexuals.

Duh?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Yes, being gay is like any other minority, in that they are not granted the same rights as the "majority" or given the same respect.

Think about why people are participating in gay pride events the next time you kiss your girlfriend in public, or hold her hand while you're walking down the street or even taking her children to the doctor for her.

What does that have to do with anything you can do these things as well If your so proud of being gay if your not then don't.
Besides where is the difference in what straight people do on a daily basis and what Homosexuals do on Gay pride day only on a much larger and more ridiculous scale. If you want to hold your boyfriends hand go ahead As I have already stated I have gay friends and that don't bother me at all. What bothers me is the fact that it's played upon to much!

Originally posted by whobdamandog
First of all...being Gay doesn't necessarily mean being a "Homosexual"

Dictionary definitions are "lexical" by nature...

The word "gay" can mean a multitude of things...

What if you looked at things differently..what if instead of saying "Gay" pride Parade..you said "Happy" pride Parade..

Your second argument commits the fallacy of the strawman..we're not talking about gay being a minority, we're talking about a "minority" being gay..

So in a nutshell, yes it is a choice..but yes..it is also genetic..

Sometimes you take both sides of an argument so you can redirect. 😛

Originally posted by FeceMan
I don't get it.

It doesn't make any sense.

Homosexuals are a minority. Minorities may also be homosexuals.

Duh?

Are many people in this world "Happy"..yes they are..

Does being Gay mean that you are "Happy"...yes it does..

So "Happy" people are indeed the majority..not the minority..

Moving on ad populem doesn't generally apply when attempting to prove an argument..the only authority one has to adhere to, is the authority they give themselves.

This is why when the Pope says

"Catholicism" is not a religion..it makes sense...

Originally posted by Darth_Midal
What does that have to do with anything you can do these things as well If your so proud of being gay if your not then don't.
Besides where is the difference in what straight people do on a daily basis and what Homosexuals do on Gay pride day only on a much larger and more ridiculous scale. If you want to hold your boyfriends hand go ahead As I have already stated I have gay friends and that don't bother me at all. What bothers me is the fact that it's played upon to much!

All of the participants join the festivities to remind the world that gays deserve the same rights as others and people should be free to live their own lifestyle, void of judgement or hate.

Originally posted by Darth_Midal
What does that have to do with anything you can do these things as well If your so proud of being gay if your not then don't...

Ya right, you live in a fantasy world. 🙄

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Sometimes you take both sides of an argument so you can redirect. 😛

uhh..No.

Originally posted by Darth_Midal
What does that have to do with anything you can do these things as well If your so proud of being gay if your not then don't.
Besides where is the difference in what straight people do on a daily basis and what Homosexuals do on Gay pride day only on a much larger and more ridiculous scale. If you want to hold your boyfriends hand go ahead As I have already stated I have gay friends and that don't bother me at all. What bothers me is the fact that it's played upon to much!

If you have gay friends, your attitude towards homosexuality in this thread is a mockery to them.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
uhh..No.

Well, not to get too far off topic, we argued for days over absolute truth, with you stating that there was an absolute truth, now you say there is no absolute truth.

I say the truth is not in you. 😛

You guys just don't get it..I'm not about rights for Gays..I'm not about rights for animals, blacks, whites, monkeys, etc..etc...

I'm just about my own rights..which translates to doing what I want to do to whomever I want to do it to..which then translates to being basic "human" rights..

Originally posted by whobdamandog
You guys just don't get it..I'm not about rights for Gays..I'm not about rights for animals, blacks, whites, monkeys, etc..etc...

I'm just about my own rights..which translates to doing what I want to do to whomever I want to do it to..which then translates to being basic "human" rights..

So, you live in a small room inside your own mind? Well, given our past conversations, we know you don't get out and date much....

Besides, I'm fairly certain even monkys wouldn't want you on their side.