Homosexuality: Chosen or Genetic?

Originally posted by Kazekage Gaara
true exactly as u said i was gay when i was fifteen but when this guy asked me out i went back to being straight again. when he kept pestering me about being bi it irritated me because i was convenced i wasnt into girls anymore. after i broke it off with him around halloween time last year i met this girl and i tried being gay again with her... ive been with her for 11 months now...

You're a very good example of how fluid sexuality is. And, congrats on such a long relationship at a young age. Show maturity on your and your girlfriend's part.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're a very good example of how fluid sexuality is. And, congrats on such a long relationship at a young age. Show maturity on your and your girlfriend's part.

Like it is entirely possible that she is bi all the time and that she just doesn't have the ability to realize it until a person and opportunity presents itself to her.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
And is homosexuality just something to be cured like a disease?

What about being heterosexual? Or how about being stupid, or just plain ignorant? We haven't found cures for those kind of things, you being the apparent suspect.

Sure you can cure heterosexuality (no you can't because it couldn't be a disease, if we go by genetics, it would be the wild-type), at the same time it would lead to human extinction.

I don't care if you talk about art. insem, cause you is still stupid. Yes I said is.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Perhaps the sexuality is not fluid, but her self-assessment isn't that great.

Like it is entirely possible that she is bi all the time and that she just doesn't have the ability to realize it until a person and opportunity presents itself to her.

Perhaps. Or, she is genuinely deciding this way and that way.

In either case, both are acceptable. Around her age, figuring out who you are is part of the process.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Like it is entirely possible that she is bi all the time and that she just doesn't have the ability to realize it until a person and opportunity presents itself to her.

this is generally the largest hurdle in understanding sexuality scientifically. No person is raised in a culture without definitions of sexuality or expectations of people, thus, adequate controls are impossible or unethical.

There's also the fact that many people who are bisexual hate the word because of the connotation and association with it and instead associate the gender they couple with most of all as being their sexuality.

lol, amen brother

Originally posted by Darth Jello
There's also the fact that many people who are bisexual hate the word because of the connotation and association with it and instead associate the gender they couple with most of all as being their sexuality.

Really? I've never heard that before.

I encounter homo-hate much more than bisexual hate. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard about someone hating on bisexuality, at all.

TBH, my only exposure to cultural discussion on it has been solely comedic. (Doubling your chances of geting laid, are the types of things people say.)

I'll give you an example from someone I was involved with. She identified herself as gay and I thought of her as a lesbian even though we dated for a good two months. Why? Well, in her life she had partnered with 15 girls and 3 guys (including me), she showed clear attraction towards the same sex, and quite frankly, she never quite got the hang of sex with a male. It always kind of seemed unnatural for her, like someone trying to do something with their weaker hand.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Really? I've never heard that before.

I encounter homo-hate much more than bisexual hate. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard about someone hating on bisexuality, at all.

TBH, my only exposure to cultural discussion on it has been solely comedic. (Doubling your chances of geting laid, are the types of things people say.)

It's not about hating bisexuality, it's about hating to be referred to as a bisexual because it has this cultural connotation associated with being promiscuous and extroverted and fun. They take it the same way as someone being called a **** or a man-whore.

not to mention, "bisexual" is a construct that assumes polar definitions of sexuality, which bisexual individuals may not identify with.

Regardless, a warning to those hoping to live out adolescent fantasies- Chasing Amy never has a happy ending.

neither does Annie Hall

Originally posted by Darth Jello
It's not about hating bisexuality, it's about hating to be referred to as a bisexual because it has this cultural connotation associated with being promiscuous and extroverted and fun. They take it the same way as someone being called a **** or a man-whore.

And that line of thinking is beyond retarded; it shouldn't be something to be ashamed about, it's just the true way you feel, so why deny yourself?

I have a friend who is definitely bisexual, but he denies himself the very thought -- in a way, he's ashamed of it. He speaks to me of "having pride" in himself, and that he would never succumb to such a lowly feat devoid of morality. I tell him "that's fvicking stupid". I know for a fact he's wanted to mess around with me for quite some time -- and once he almost did, but then when I talk to him again he claims that he's "100% straight". Hah! Could it get more pathetic?

There's this other guy I know who claims you can't like both, and that you have to choose being straight or gay, just like that. To him it seems that the very notion of bisexuality is filled to the brim with infedelity.

I have a girlfriend whom I love very, very much, but just beause I'm attracted to both sexes (she's bi, too) does not mean that in any way, shape, or form that I would mess around with other people -- I do in fact have morals. People confuse liking the same sex as being "without morals", and it truly is an ignorant manner of thinking that needs to be put to rest.

Stupid or not, it's become a pejorative in America like "liberal" or "socialist". A lot of people just don't think it's nice.

Agreed, but those people are full of sh**.

Or they just feel self-conscious about being called a whore.

So do you personally think that the term "whore" is synonomous with being bisexual?

Not with BEING bisexual, but I think there is a social connotation to the word that carries that implication which makes being called bisexual or especially "bi" incredibly offensive to some people. Furthermore, how people choose to identify their sexuality is up to them.

thanks dadudemon!

ok i, being 17 years of age with a girlfriend who is a year behind me, have been called bi before I met her. When I dated that guy because i had been seen around with another girl before i went back to being straight i was call a lesbo and bi. at the time it pissed me off because people dont have a right to judge me just because i held another girls hand. I have realized over these couple of years as i bounce off of being bi and straight and now a lesbian that I am infact a lesbian. to prove my point that when i was bi i wasnt really bi, when i first started dating this girl im with now I had only been useing her to get a boyfriend (because the last time i dated a girl thats what happend). I was working at aa fastfood resturant during the time i started dating her and three months had passed. well while I was standing there waiting for and order i let my mind wander and it hit me. i was acctually in love with a girl. I started to freak out and get scared bacause i didnt acctually believe i was bi or a lesbian. after the realization hit me I stayed bi for two months before i realized one day that the feelings i had for guys were gone. i thought two things (and i belive both theories are correct) one is that i acctually was a lesbo and had become one over time and two that this was all in my head, that if i only wanted to like a girl and got it programmed into my mind then my body would react to that. that being a lesbian, bi, or gay is a mental thing.