Qui Gon Jinn Possibly was a Sith Plant

Started by Red Superfly3 pages

But it IS silly..........

why...because its far fetched....everyone knows qui-gon wasnt the typical jedi....im expecting a twist in ROTS like the twist lucas had in ESB....now there may not even be a twist but i like keeping my mind open but i like the fact that the kid has the guts to post such a far fetched or "silly" theory...its like in sports when all the faired-weathered fans are rooting for the favorites and than someone says the underdog iare going to win and everyone looke at him like he's crazy (im not calling anyone a fair-weathered star war fans its just an analogy)

Originally posted by wuTa
your the only one who seems to think so...just because you disagree with it dont make it silly

No what makes it silly is the fact that its STUPID. 😱 Why do the fanboys find the need to read into every freaking thing?

Yep, Silly would be the "nice" way to describe it. 😄

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
No what makes it silly is the fact that its STUPID. 😱 Why do the fanboys find the need to read into every freaking thing?

jesus christ its just a theory..i explained why i liked it you explained why you didnt NO NEED TO SPAZ OUT WITH CAP LOCKS

heh

all too easy 😈

the artwork.

👽 I read in this book of art work of attack of the clones that jedi knight kit fisto was going to be a sith instead of jedi. Also i saw the character designs for Anakin, Obi-wan, Padme and the others, the artwork and concepts for the backgrounds and planets in the film. And the screenplay for the films including a extra scene on Naboo where Anakin and Padme visit Padme's family and Anakin and Padme's father talk and get along.

Hmm, an odd theory yet an intresting one. Could Qui Gon have been a Sith in disguise helping Sideous? Was he a pawn moved unwittingly by the Dark Lord? Will Lucas pick up on this idea? Depends on how much extra money he thinks it'll pick up really.

Nah, I don't think so. He insisted to train Anakin because he fulfilled the prophesy. How could he send Anakin home after he won their way off of Tatooine? It's really well thought-out, but I think Qui Gon's intentions were good. ^_^

1.He constantly defied the jedi council
2.All of the other jedi sensed anakins danger, so would qui gon
3.He was trained by dooku, who also was a sith
4.He wanted the prophesy to be fullfilled (bringing the force into balance would mean killing a lot o jedi, as it was too unbalanced in the favour of the light side of the force.

I do not think Dooku was a Sith or even a Dark Jedi at the time when he trained Qui-gon, but I could be wrong. It is a very interesting theory, but I do not think Qui-Gon could ever be a Sith. He was very venerable and in my opinion, one of the best Jedis around. 😄

Originally posted by eleveninches
1.He constantly defied the jedi council
2.All of the other jedi sensed anakins danger, so would qui gon
3.He was trained by dooku, who also was a sith
4.He wanted the prophesy to be fullfilled (bringing the force into balance would mean killing a lot o jedi, as it was too unbalanced in the favour of the light side of the force.

Also, he trained obiwan to defy the jedi council, possibly knowing that doing so would result in anakin turning into vader.
And, he told anakin to 'feel, dont think'. I thought that jedis were not allowed to have emotion, so why did he tell anakin this?

Interesting theory, but I don't think he was a Sith. Rather, I think he may have been much as Dooku said he was. Had he lived, I could definitely see him joining the separatists. And this is what I don't like about Lucas' concept of the force, really.
From all appearances, Lucas got his idea of the Force from Taoism. The way he's represented it, the Yin is "light" and the Yang is "dark". That's not how it should have happened. Striving for enlightenment, harmony, and peace should have been light, and striving to manipulate and conquer should have been dark. That said, to be enlightened, and live in harmony and peace, it is not required that someone abide by the rules that the Jedi order set down. It is possible- someone like, say, Walt Whitman would say *only* possible- to attain the balance and harmony through understanding and living within your own emotions.

Thats where I think Qui Gon was, in spite of the Jedi Order telling him it was wrong, and it's the state of mind that I think Anakin tried to find. The reason that he fell to the Dark Side was because he felt such intense emotion, yet he was taught on one hand (Palpatine) to embrace it and use it as a force to strike down the Order, and on the other hand (the Council) he was taught to ignore it entirely. Anakin wanted to be good, and would have been good, if not for the gross negligence of the Jedi Order. My theory, therefore, is that had Qui-Gon lived to tutor Anakin, he would never have fallen to the Dark Side. Qui-Gon would have taught Anakin the truths that the Order, for some reason, denied- that fear and love can be embraced for the ultimate good. Anakin's fall is as much at the hands of the Order as it is at the hands of Palpatine. The only difference is that one does it unwittingly.

And this, in my opinion, is why Darth Maul seems so intent on killing Qui-Gon specifically in Episode I. I bet Sidious knows that if he can eliminate the only 'romantic' (in the philosophical sense) in the Jedi Order, Anakin will have nobody left to turn to with his emotions but him. Qui Gon is, basically, Anakin had Anakin found a way to reconcile his emotions with the Order's teachings.

Oh yeah, and being a Sith plant just means that he's someone who the Sith planted in the order to cause disruption. Not sure if you guys were being sarcastic or legitimately unsure of the meaning, but yeah, I think that's what he meant.

If Qui-Gon was a Sith plant then why was a Sith apprentice sent to kill him?

The Sith have never exactly had that "all for one, and one for all" attitude going, have they? They wouldn't be the first time one's killed another.

Well yeah but I haven't heard of a Sith being sent to kill another Sith, as opposed to just killing because he wanted to.

If he were a Sith plant and wanted the darkside to prevail, then why o why would we hear him saying, "Anakin Anakin, noo!" when he was slaurtering Sand people?

He was not a sith plant, he was just human and had emotions but knew had to control them.

Hey, yeah, I hadn't thought of that sand people connection. Good call.

Quigon always was telling anakin to "feel, don't think" and "trust your instincts"
Whereas obiwan is always telling anakin to ignore his feelings and do as he is told, and that anakin should think about his actions.
Anakin is confused by the mixed teachings, but the teachings of quigon stay with him more than those of obiwan, making him too reckless and able to turn into vader.
Maybe thats what quigon had in mind all along.