1) Hulk and War are the same.
2) If it came down to a score card "Hulk/War" whipped his a**.
3) Juggernaut only beat The Hulk because Juggernaut knew that if he showed up in his normal costume that he would not have the element of surprise. So the only way that Cain beat him was by trickery, because
he knew that if he fought him straight up he'd lose.
4) The Hulk came back and with one punch to the belly Cain was out cold.
5) Did you see the polls? Guess who's winning.
Originally posted by CaptainStoicJuggernaut puts on a t-shirt and kicks Hulks @ss. Hulk gets some Celestial tech and knocks Juggernaut down but not out.
1) Hulk and War are the same.
2) If it came down to a score card "Hulk/War" whipped his a**.
3) Juggernaut only beat The Hulk because Juggernaut knew that if he showed up in his normal costume that he would not have the element of surprise. So the only way that Cain beat him was by trickery, because
he knew that if he fought him straight up he'd lose.
4) The Hulk came back and with one punch to the belly Cain was out cold.
5) Did you see the polls? Guess who's winning.
T-shirt>Celestial tech?
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Who in the hell revived this thread? I made this almost 2 yrs ago.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Juggernaut puts on a t-shirt and kicks Hulks @ss. Hulk gets some Celestial tech and knocks Juggernaut down but not out.T-shirt>Celestial tech?
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Who in the hell revived this thread? I made this almost 2 yrs ago.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
1) Hulk and War are the same.
2) If it came down to a score card "Hulk/War" whipped his a**.
3) Juggernaut only beat The Hulk because Juggernaut knew that if he showed up in his normal costume that he would not have the element of surprise. So the only way that Cain beat him was by trickery, because
he knew that if he fought him straight up he'd lose.
4) The Hulk came back and with one punch to the belly Cain was out cold.
5) Did you see the polls? Guess who's winning.
When did Hulk ko Cain? guess you have comics I don't have.
I thought it was stated by the writers that War Hulk is stronger than Savage Hulk. Why would they make a Hulk thats weaker than Hulk? there would be no reason to make a weaker or identical Hulk. I guess you know more than the writers, my bad. So now lets put Trion Juggernaut vs War Hulk or Savage Hulk. I mean they are the same person.
Juggernaut knew he would lose to Hulk? well its nice to know you have an imagination.
So now the polls make a character, and not the writers? ok
Your ignorance is appalling, so please gather yourself some comic logic, and knowledge before you open your mouth. There is no point in arguing with someone who just creates his own situations to make his argument seem credible.
This is what you wrote because you refuse to read what I wrote, or simply have a selective memory disorder.
"I thought it was stated by the writers that War Hulk is stronger than Savage Hulk. Why would they make a Hulk thats weaker than Hulk? there would be no reason to make a weaker or identical Hulk. I guess you know more than the writers, my bad. So now lets put Trion Juggernaut vs War Hulk or Savage Hulk. I mean they are the same person."
Now Pay Attention:
I said that The Hulk can exceed.... do you know what exceed means? Well if not, I will get you a definition. Exceed: to go or be beyond (a limit, limiting regulation, measure, etc.)
Now that I cleared that up, as I was saying The Hulk can exceed the level of strength that he showed to possess when he was called War.
It is true that Wars initial level of strength is higher than a regular calm Hulk, but... now pay attention, The Hulks adrenalin levels can surpass the strength that it took for War to stop the Juggernaut. The implants that were hooked into the Hulk only brought out the Hulks true potential. Are you still with me? These are not levels that the Hulk would not eventually achieve himself.
You must have cried a river when you found out that The Juggernaut was depowered huh? I mean now guys like Collossus can crack his skull.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
juggernaut is stronger than thor
That's why Thor was able to resist Juggernauts blows with his arms while telling the civilians to flee right? Right.
The only reason Juggernaut was able to put the squeeze on Thor is because of his longer arms and better leverage, just like Python is able to squeeze larger and stronger animals to death. He was just lucky enough to catch Thor off-balance after Thor delivered his combination that was strong enough to momentarily stop the juggernaut.
Of course, that was generally sub-par writing because Thor can survive in space where there is no air, yet here Juggernaut, by preventing Thor from breathing almost killed him.
Originally posted by Never
He is, however, silly enough to try to fight without it. Thor #385.
You do realize that even in that comic the only times the hulk gained the advantage was when Thor was distracted by civilians. Never did it show Hulk overcoming Thor with strength, only ferocity. In fact, it looked very much like hulk needed projectiles to actually hurt Thor.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
This is what you wrote because you refuse to read what I wrote, or simply have a selective memory disorder."I thought it was stated by the writers that War Hulk is stronger than Savage Hulk. Why would they make a Hulk thats weaker than Hulk? there would be no reason to make a weaker or identical Hulk. I guess you know more than the writers, my bad. So now lets put Trion Juggernaut vs War Hulk or Savage Hulk. I mean they are the same person."
Now Pay Attention:
I said that The Hulk can exceed.... do you know what exceed means? Well if not, I will get you a definition. Exceed: to go or be beyond (a limit, limiting regulation, measure, etc.)
Now that I cleared that up, as I was saying The Hulk can exceed the level of strength that he showed to possess when he was called War.
It is true that Wars initial level of strength is higher than a regular calm Hulk, but... now pay attention, The Hulks adrenalin levels can surpass the strength that it took for War to stop the Juggernaut. The implants that were hooked into the Hulk only brought out the Hulks true potential. Are you still with me? These are not levels that the Hulk would not eventually achieve himself.
You must have cried a river when you found out that The Juggernaut was depowered huh? I mean now guys like Collossus can crack his skull.
See thats were you make yourself look stupid. How could the celestial implants bring out the full potential of a character who according to you has no limit potential? Or if it does bring out his full potential how do you surpass your limit potential?
You yourself stated that War Hulk, and savage Hulk were the same thing in one of your previous post so why change what you say now?
"1) Hulk and War are the same."
Or did you not say that?
Who cares if Juggernauts been depowered it happens to a lot of characters. marvel will probably bring him back to full strength.
You still do not address the fact that Juggernaut can also increase his strength along with many other characters.
Originally posted by aliveinboston
That's why Thor was able to resist Juggernauts blows with his arms while telling the civilians to flee right? Right.The only reason Juggernaut was able to put the squeeze on Thor is because of his longer arms and better leverage, just like Python is able to squeeze larger and stronger animals to death. He was just lucky enough to catch Thor off-balance after Thor delivered his combination that was strong enough to momentarily stop the juggernaut.
Of course, that was generally sub-par writing because Thor can survive in space where there is no air, yet here Juggernaut, by preventing Thor from breathing almost killed him.
So he nearly killed Thor because he was bigger than him. If that was the case Giant Man is stronger than Thor because he's bigger.
There aren't many animals stronger than a full grown Python. A Python is basically a big muscle.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Juggs20vs20Thor0.jpg
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Please point out where Thor stopped Juggernaut?
Thor wasn't shrugging off any of Juggernauts attacks. He was able to dodge a few due to his Superior fighting skills, but not shrug them off. look at the fourth scan.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
So he nearly killed Thor because he was bigger than him. If that was the case Giant Man is stronger than Thor because he's bigger.
No. Bigger is not stronger. Giant Man isnt particularly strong by the standards of Thor, Juggernaut, etc... Juggernaut almost killed Thor by preventing him from breathing because he was able to get his arms fully around Thor and keep his lungs from expanding. Of course, its also poor writing since Thor doesnt need to breathe.
There aren't many animals stronger than a full grown Python. A Python is basically a big muscle.
Wrong. A python isnt all that strong. Even the largest Pythons barely weight a few hundred pounds. Their advantage is that they can completely wrap around prey in such a way that the prey has no leverage. If you can trap someone with their arms by their side the only way they would be able to get out is by wriggling out. This is all the Juggernaut did.
Please point out where Thor stopped Juggernaut?
Look at the scans again and you will see Juggernaut falling backwards. Doesnt happen everyday. Bottom of the fourth scan has Juggernaut off-balance, as does the top of the fifth scan just before he is able to catch Thor in his arms as Thor threw himself at him.
Thor wasn't shrugging off any of Juggernauts attacks.
I didnt say he was "shrugging" them off, I said he was able to block them with his arms.
He was able to dodge a few due to his Superior fighting skills, but not shrug them off. look at the fourth scan.
I dont see where Thor dodged with his "superior fighting skills" but you can see at the bottom of the second scan and also in the third scan (where he is looking at the civilians and telling them to get away) that he is blocking the juggernauts attack with his arms.
In the fourth scan Juggernaut uses his superior reach to simply pick him up and throw him. Given that Thor only weghs 600lbs or so, even spider man could have easily done something like that. Once he had Thor off his feet, Juggernaut struck him a few times.
Also, this is a highly "amped" juggernaut. Thor clearly expected that under normal circumstances the Juggernaut would have fallen.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
Ask Juggernaut6666, about the amped up Juggernaut. He's really not amped up, but ill let someone else address that, i'm tired.
It is stated repeatedly by Thor that Juggernaut's power has increased, even resorting to absurd hyperbole, that "his might hath swelled a hundredfold." Juggernaut also acknowledges that his is more powerful than before saying "you got that right goldilocks" and that "something's making me that way".
Originally posted by soujaboy09
See thats were you make yourself look stupid. How could the celestial implants bring out the full potential of a character who according to you has no limit potential? Or if it does bring out his full potential how do you surpass your limit potential?You yourself stated that War Hulk, and savage Hulk were the same thing in one of your previous post so why change what you say now?
"1) Hulk and War are the same."
Or did you not say that?
Who cares if Juggernauts been depowered it happens to a lot of characters. marvel will probably bring him back to full strength.
You still do not address the fact that Juggernaut can also increase his strength along with many other characters.
I never said full potential... read it again. If I put a tattoo on you, and called you a code name, does it change who you are?
Listen man Juggernaut cannot beat the Hulk, get used to it. In fact there are many characters out there that can beat either of these guys.
You keep going on, and on about juggernaut increasing his strength, but can you show me a scan where it shows this, or tells me this for a fact? Don't post some boot leg link on the Juggernauts profile either, because whoever these fans are that make these web sites based upon how they feel about a particular character should be sued by Marvel for defacing their property. The Official Marvel Hanbook scans if you will please, anything else is unofficial. Trion Juggernaut will never be seen again, to base a character on one showing is foolishness, that was the first time since his inception into comics that he has ever been that strong.
Originally posted by aliveinboston
It is stated repeatedly by Thor that Juggernaut's power has increased, even resorting to absurd hyperbole, that "his might hath swelled a hundredfold." Juggernaut also acknowledges that his is more powerful than before saying "you got that right goldilocks" and that "something's making me that way".
Ok I guess the writer of the comic during this time was asked why he created Juggernaut stronger. He replied by saying "How can limitless become stronger?". It was stated that if Juggernaut focuses on the magical energies that flow through his body, he can increase his powers and strength. That is why in some comics he was able to blast energy blast out of his hands.
Ok Captainstoic, this is what you stated, and it clearly reads that the implants bring out his true potential. I guess you didn't say this either?
"Now Pay Attention:
I said that The Hulk can exceed.... do you know what exceed means? Well if not, I will get you a definition. Exceed: to go or be beyond (a limit, limiting regulation, measure, etc.)
Now that I cleared that up, as I was saying The Hulk can exceed the level of strength that he showed to possess when he was called War.
It is true that Wars initial level of strength is higher than a regular calm Hulk, but... now pay attention, The Hulks adrenalin levels can surpass the strength that it took for War to stop the Juggernaut. The implants that were hooked into the Hulk only brought out the Hulks true potential. Are you still with me? These are not levels that the Hulk would not eventually achieve himself.
You must have cried a river when you found out that The Juggernaut was depowered huh? I mean now guys like Collossus can crack his skull."
You know whats funny CaptainStoic, you have made so many false claims in this thread that its funny. Like the fact that you stated that Hulk hit Juggernaut in his stomach and ko'd him.
So now you want official Marvel handbooks? ask Darkcrawler about Handbooks. They state that Namor can only lift 85 tons when he has clearly be shown to be able to lift more than that.
BTW it was stated in the handbooks that Juggernauts strength is limitless.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Juggernaut. Classic, I assume? Then he wins. Nothing the others can do can harm him. Even with Mjolnir in Thor's hands, Juggy would still slap him around.And Hulk, well, we don't need another Juggernaut vs. Hulk thread in here, but I believe Juggernaut will eventually beat out Hulk.
As the avatar of cyttorak he is unstoppable. Cyttorak is a very high skyfather. Thoreven with mjolnir can't stop Juggy much. But if mjolnir is not in Thor hand but negating mystical energies. Good 4 Thor. Bad 4 Jugs.
