Presidential Debate

see what i mean? unreachable

You try to talk about God Backfire, but its funny, because the Bible claims that marriage is also between a man and a women...of which the constitution was based off of. It says that gay marriage is wrong. I'm afraid YOU'VE got your mixing ideas. I never said gay marriage was right, but I said people can't be stopped or forced to not be gay...you agree? However to legalize it is wrong...is that not clear enough for you?

What do you think PVS, that your gonna change my mind? I have never seen a kid at a very young age show signs of being gay...its how they are raised...or a mental disorder in my opinion...A baby does not come out thinking that he likes the same sex as himself...that's what I think...obviously we have children from men and women...men and women are meant to be together...being gay is only for pleasure obviously...because its not about having kids...

Whats with all this gay people bullshit? If somebodys gay then thats their choice. And all this crap about kids being gay or whatever is just crap. You cant tell your sexual preferences if your just a kid.

Originally posted by hunchy
Sorry, but people aren't born gay...and if so, its a mental defect...its not something natural...

If they are born with it then it is natural. Great experts on both sides can't prove if people are born or 'become' gay. Please say that it is your opinion not stating it as 'fact' that people aren't born gay. No one knows for sure. A lot of religious people are hoping that they are not born that way. If they were born that way then God made them what they are. See, they can't accept that.

One side note. I like hearing everyones point of views but really hunchy you need to control your posting. I count 6 posts in a row. Page 16-17. Spam is against the rules even if you are staying on topic. One more suggestion since I probably have you pi$$ed at me anyway. You don't need to re-post everything when you are replying. Just copy what need to show what you are talking about. Sometimes you need to copy everything but not all the time. Anyway. Getting off my soap box now. Carry on.

keep pushing your pseudo-science hunchy

ill just sit here and roll me eyes 🙄

Originally posted by hunchy
I have never seen a kid at a very young age show signs of being gay...its how they are raised...or a mental disorder in my opinion...

I wouldn't think that a child would show signs until they are going through puberty. It seems like common sense to me. A 3 year old has no concept of sexuality until their body changes. It doesn't mean that they weren't born gay just just means they didn't show until the hormones started flowing.

If it is a mental disorder then didn't God put it there? So isn't that Not only natural but the way it was planned in the great scheme of things?

Being gay is natural, and of course they wouldn't show signs of their sexuality until they reach puberty because thats the time when people start to become physically attracted to others. Have you ever heard of a 6 year old in a serious romantic relationship?

How did this thread about the presidential Debate turn out to be a big ass argument about gay marriage and gay people?

Because it was one of the debate questions and some feel it is an important issue.

If we were to let Bush ban Gay marriage where will it stop? Next he'll be banning smart people because they make him look dumb... 😱 😄 (Note humor!)

Yeah but this thread has turned away from the other issues and just became a discussion about one. There are also more important things than gay marriages

Then we give you permission to move onto the next issue

Nah go ahead and discuss what you want, Im just saying that everbody is getting really serious with the gay issue and its like its not going to end for quite a while but I dont really care

Ok then... *waits*

I've said it before and I'll say it again, anyone opposed to equal rights for homosexuals will end up on the wrong side of history.
Like the slave masters, segregationists and male separatists.

And please point out for me hunchy where in the constitution it says that marriage is only between a man and a woman.

I believe you've confused the US Constitution with your bible.

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Yes, the presidential debates.
Kerry won all 3 and Edwards really held up his own against Darth Vader aka Cheney. 😂

Your right, it is probably when they reach puberty so in otherwords, its a disorder that you develop...it has nothing to do with choice...thanks for proving that point...

and the constitution was based off the Bible...so yes, they would be similar...and the bible is against being gay...And also, what, you think I have a constitution laying around at my house...I studied it in school at one point and I remember reading it...if I cand find something, I'd love to prove to you what it says.

you are just a fountain of misinformation, arent you?

Well excuse me, but if you're going to throw out statements that you claim are fact you should back them up.

Obtaining a copy of the Constitution isn't like finding the holy grail
Here you go:
http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html

You wont find it in there.
You know why?

Because the writers of the constitution were all for equality, and human rights and the pursue of happiness.
(Even though many were slave owners 🙄 )

Bush wants to add an amendment that would tarnish the constitution with his prejudiced religious theology!

He needs to keep his bible turning fingers off of my constitution!

Well, guess what? The CONSTITUTION WAS BASED OFF THE BIBLE...so in other words, they go along and have the same morals...and the founding father's were not racist. And PVS, try to tell me that the founding father's did not base their morals on the bible...No, I am not the one spewing misinformation.