you cant say that they dont have talent..you havent even heard all their songs anyways. I dont think they're trying to be nothin their not. I could give you the website where Pierre says all the stuff about labels and what they're trying to become and stuff like that if you watch "egos and Icons" you'll see that they arn't trying to be something they're not..trust me. They get attention because they've worked really hard to get where they are so they desverve it. I dont care you dont like them and they arent you type of music but stop saying that they're talentless.
also why do you guys need a label? why does it matter if Simple Plan is pop-punk? why is it such a big deal?