I give sabertooth a large majority over blade, like 8/10 and the two that I gave blade I dont know how in the hell he's going to get that. Blade is a physical character and all the vampiric weapons that he has at his disposal wont do anything but be a nuisance to someone like sabertooth. This isnt a good fight.
Originally posted by jinzinScan them for me, peon! 😠 j/k. No seriously, anybody got scans of this Cyclops and Bishop attempted lobotomizations? Did Sabretooth just stand there and smile? I mean, look, it's not like I completely doubt the veracity of your claims. I mean, Cap has also not had a bullet penetrate into his skull. But really, even I say that was 😘.
Ah I see. so you're still under the impression that 3 circumstantial examples of Wolverine being shot in the brain are going to overshadow an entire career of that not happening free of circumstances... right....Don't have the scans on hand, the Cyclops one is from Sabretooth: In the Red Zone, The Bishop one is from X-Men unlimited Vol 1 issue 3.
With Ms. Marvel, I would contend that the train didn't harm her THAT much. She did afterall state that any one of those punches she hit creed with would have pulverized a normal man and that it took a a dozen just to knock Sabretooth over.
And it's not as if that's the only example of Sabretooth taking heavy hits without adamantium. Rogue had Sabretooth planted into a wall where he couldn't roll with blows and was socking him in the face and he shrugged it off like nothing happened. Killpower was also punching Sabretooth in the head and it did nothing to stop him.
I don't remember her saying those punches could pulverize a normal man? Was that before or after she got smashed by the subway train? But either way, Cap's taken a lot of punches that would pulverize a normal man also. You avoid that through skill. And Ms. Marvel seemed pretty messed up to me from that squiggly dialogue balloon. And you can't deny that she says, "I'm running on grit alone -- my punches have no power to them." She even states, "I'm losing speed too!"
Either way, I don't believe Sabretooth has bulletproof durability. And we've seen what happens to him if something penetrates his brain, like Wolverine's middle claw. I don't need to use Wolverine's brain getting shot up on-panel to believe it'd work. Sabretooth doesn't even have the benefit of an adamantium skull. It'd be a win for Blade. He's got swords, pistols, knives, oh my!
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Two very powerful people.....so were going to ignore it? From what I undertsood he wasn't even superhuman when he did it.
Lol oh phantom zone... Just what IS it that makes you carry on this endless crusade to discredit Logan and everyone associated with the character?
Do you REALLY hate Wolverine that much?
No, no we're not going to ignore the feat. But we're also NOT going to make more out of the measily handful of feats he does have then they really are.
Is beating Deacon Frost impressive? Hardly... Deacon Frost from all evidence was less of a direct threat than classic (no healing factor, super strength, or training) Sabretooth, nevermind the current interpretations.
As Lagrok already asked, what about that is impressive?
it isn't.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
.....ah. 😏Was that Deacon Frost with upgrades (I think he did some magical ritual)? Well anyway I heard DF was pretty powerful.
Lol, yeah Frost has stats that say he can lift up to 2000 pounds.. Like! WHAO!
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Originally posted by Phantom Zone
With his current HF it would at least slow him down.
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Uh-huh... are you even aware of what Sabes had been doing with his current HF? I'm inclined to think otherwise.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Scan them for me, peon! 😠 j/k. No seriously, anybody got scans of this Cyclops and Bishop attempted lobotomizations? Did Sabretooth just stand there and smile? I mean, look, it's not like I completely doubt the veracity of your claims. I mean, Cap has also not had a bullet penetrate into his skull. But really, even I say that was 😘.
Well his fingernails are durable enough to slice through steel without being broken, and Ms. Marvel said that his muscles were like steel cables.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't remember her saying those punches could pulverize a normal man? Was that before or after she got smashed by the subway train? But either way, Cap's taken a lot of punches that would pulverize a normal man also. You avoid that through skill. And Ms. Marvel seemed pretty messed up to me from that squiggly dialogue balloon. And you can't deny that she says, "I'm running on grit alone -- my punches have no power to them." She even states, "I'm losing speed too!"
I'm not sure how Sabretooth could use any skill to roll with punches when she had a rear naked applied and was batting him in the back of the head. Again he's also been punched in the face by Rogue and pulled his head out of the crater like nothing happened. So ms. Marvel isn't the only reference for that level of durability.
She stated it at the end of the fight right before she got dizzy.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Either way, I don't believe Sabretooth has bulletproof durability. And we've seen what happens to him if something penetrates his brain, like Wolverine's middle claw. I don't need to use Wolverine's brain getting shot up on-panel to believe it'd work. Sabretooth doesn't even have the benefit of an adamantium skull. It'd be a win for Blade. He's got swords, pistols, knives, oh my!
As for bullet proof durability.. all I know is that I've seen bishop fire a gun at his face with no hole, that cyclops failed to penetrate his skull with a "bullet", and that Deadpool shot off two full clips of automatic gunfire in Creeds face and aside from a couple of missing teeth all it got out of Victor was trash talk and a smile. 😬
Originally posted by Eel O'Brian
Honestly, Jinzin, I'm surprised anybody has the willpower to still be quoting Phantom Zone in any of these countless threads.I mean, he's oblivious, so can press on endlessly.
But the rest of you... saints. 😐
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Yeah i know... I know... I just keep hoping that he'll get better at this whole debating thing.. 😬
Originally posted by Marvelknight
What's feats does Sabertooth's HF have before his death (dam that sucks, wish he was still alive)?
Yeah I'm kinda wondering if Tooth was a Skrull since HOM or slighly before as his Adamantium Skeleton went MIA with pretty much no explanation at all.
Given that two Wolverine arcs, a Deadpool arc, an X-men issue, a Sabretooth mini, and an entire ongoing series were all written BASED in part around Sabretooth's enhancements and skeleton, I can't imagine that Marvel simply up and forgot about them... But... perhaps I'm mistaken.
Anyways, Skrullbertooth.. er I mean Sabretooth was showing some pretty ridiculous healing factor feats at the end of his career.
He was shot from space and crashlanded into Earth, got up before scientists could finish a short sentence about him being "a sack of broken bones and---..."
He was hit so hard by a gravity weilding mutant that his neck was broken, along with his jaw, his shoulder, and some crushed organs, and was up, healed, and running away pretty much as soon as he hit the ground.
He came out fighting out of a crashlanded blackbird inferno with only lost hair and a had a few minor burns.
Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah I'm kinda wondering if Tooth was a Skrull since HOM or slighly before as his Adamantium Skeleton went MIA with pretty much no explanation at all.
Given that two Wolverine arcs, a Deadpool arc, an X-men issue, a Sabretooth mini, and an entire ongoing series were all written BASED in part around Sabretooth's enhancements and skeleton, I can't imagine that Marvel simply up and forgot about them... But... perhaps I'm mistaken.Anyways, Skrullbertooth.. er I mean Sabretooth was showing some pretty ridiculous healing factor feats at the end of his career.
He was shot from space and crashlanded into Earth, got up before scientists could finish a short sentence about him being "a sack of broken bones and---..."
He was hit so hard by a gravity weilding mutant that his neck was broken, along with his jaw, his shoulder, and some crushed organs, and was up, healed, and running away pretty much as soon as he hit the ground.
He came out fighting out of a crashlanded blackbird inferno with only lost hair and a had a few minor burns.
Dam that's impressive, especially the part about him landing from space.
Yes well. Since you are absolutely confident that Sabretooth is bulletproof. Well... just saying that out loud makes me feel dumber by proxy. You can understand why I'm a bit incredulous.
Cap has had his face knocked around by Iron Man. Trust me. Getting pummeled by people with far greater strength then you does not automatically equate to superhuman durability. Like most fights against foes with massively superior strength, rolling with blows means a whole lot.
And as for the Wolverine claw popping scene, Sabretooth was knocked out, wasn't he? That's a win. Or a double K.O. to be fair. But that's not my point. The point is, a Wolverine claw pop penetrated into his brain from beneath his throat. I'm pretty sure a bullet would also. Anyways, despite your arguments that Sabretooth's skull is somehow now bulletproof... (that still sounds so stupid to me), Blade could still nail his brain through his eye cavity, throat cavity or nasal cavity, a la Wolverine-pwnage.
Originally posted by jinzin
Yeah I'm kinda wondering if Tooth was a Skrull since HOM or slighly before as his Adamantium Skeleton went MIA with pretty much no explanation at all.
Given that two Wolverine arcs, a Deadpool arc, an X-men issue, a Sabretooth mini, and an entire ongoing series were all written BASED in part around Sabretooth's enhancements and skeleton, I can't imagine that Marvel simply up and forgot about them... But... perhaps I'm mistaken.Anyways, Skrullbertooth.. er I mean Sabretooth was showing some pretty ridiculous healing factor feats at the end of his career.
He was shot from space and crashlanded into Earth, got up before scientists could finish a short sentence about him being "a sack of broken bones and---..."
He was hit so hard by a gravity weilding mutant that his neck was broken, along with his jaw, his shoulder, and some crushed organs, and was up, healed, and running away pretty much as soon as he hit the ground.
He came out fighting out of a crashlanded blackbird inferno with only lost hair and a had a few minor burns.
Jinzin, do you have any of the scans for these scenes besides that blackbird. I would love to see it.
Originally posted by srankmissingninExcept Wolverine isn't a human with a normal bone structure. He's a mutant with an obviously odd bone structure. Go figure. Besides, it happened. On-panel. Get over it. It'll happen at least one more time before the year is out. Write a petition letter to Marvel in the meantime. 😛
Not too familiar with human anatomy are you?
And Sabretooth doesn't have an adamantium skull anyway.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Except Wolverine isn't a human with a normal bone structure. He's a mutant with an obviously odd bone structure. Go figure. Besides, it happened. On-panel. Get over it. It'll happen at least one more time before the year is out. Write a petition letter to Marvel in the meantime. 😛And Sabretooth doesn't have an adamantium skull anyway.
and still win 8/10.