Sabertooth Vs. Blade

Originally posted by jinzin
Blade was a vampire then, his history got retconned in his last series... You know that.

I mean you can choose to ignore it, but you know it.

In any case, if you had direct statements and proof of Blade being physically faster, stronger, etc than Sage your argument would have merit... I don't seem to remember that stated anywhere.

We're not feat swapping here... I'm not saying that since Sabretooth is faster than Wolverine, he can do everything Wolverine can do....

Although... I could, since once again, he ACTUALLY HAS proven to be faster, stronger etc... By multiple types of proof.

The argument revolves around Sabretooth being legitimately faster than someone who we can proof is as fast or faster than Blade in Wolverine.

Blade can't say the same in regards to Sabretooth. Cause.... He's not faster.

you're using wolverines speed feats for sabretooth, bada stated no feat substituting.

but if we're going by that, then blade does have the strength to overpower spiderman, durability enough to survive a fall from space to earth, and healing enough to survive anything save for decapitation.

Man Spider-Man always gets drawn into these threads. Now Sabes is faster than him and Blade can jump him. Yet Spider-Man can throw the Hulk so that means he's stronger than the Hulk??

Man this thing got to 39 pages fast. Might be the next Wolverine vs Spider-Man since they are clearly so evenly matched. And with that said I'm off. 😄

Just because Blade has been retconned into always being a vampire doesn't change the fact that he wasn't always written that way.

Wolverine was just lucky Blade wanted to bring him in alive or he would have shanked his @ss then and there.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Man Spider-Man always gets drawn into these threads. Now Sabes is faster than him and Blade can jump him. Yet Spider-Man can throw the Hulk so that means he's stronger than the Hulk??

Man this thing got to 39 pages fast. Might be the next Wolverine vs Spider-Man since they are clearly so evenly matched. And with that said I'm off. 😄

Originally posted by Trackz
he wasn't written as a vampire, direct statements that blade has been stated as one of the most powerful vampires?

you're using wolverines speed feats for sabretooth, bada stated no feat substituting.

but if we're going by that, then blade does have the strength to overpower spiderman, durability enough to survive a fall from space to earth, and healing enough to survive anything save for decapitation.

Do you not understand what a retcon is?
Who are you to dismiss canon facts?

No. I'm asking you to find direct statements that quote Blade as being faster or stronger than any being that that has ever legitimately overpowered Spiderman etc.

Direct quotes saying specifically what Blade outstrips Sage in.

Saying he's one of the most powerful vampires is a pretty massive sweeping generalization which isn't much of a stretch, especially considering how the vast majority of fodder vamps are showcased as being. Wolverine was stated to be one of the most powerful X-men, that doesn't mean he can fly, or that he's the strongest or the fastest...

Sabretooth however IS directly quoted as being faster than Wolverine.. AND he's proven it. that's the difference. It's not a generalization, it's a specific advantage he has over someone who can match or outstrip everything Blade has to offer in the speed department.

Why you think that's the same as what your babbling about is beyond me... As I said, in order to claim Blade is faster than Sabretooth (and your suporters are making that claim) then you need to PROVE that he's faster than Wolverine since Sabretooth IS faster than Wolverine... And again, you can't.

The bottem line is that you can show all the fodder feats you like, all I have to say is "yeah well.. Sabretooth's faster than Wolverine" and it dismantles any delusions that Blade's superior to Creed in the speed department.

"What speed feats does Sabretooth have?"
He's faster than Wolverine... It isn't conjecture... that's a speed feat.
Trackz... I'm curious... how old are you?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Just because Blade has been retconned into always being a vampire doesn't change the fact that he wasn't always written that way.

I understand that. But.. well retcons matter... In any case the point to the retcon is a small matter.

The bottem line is that you can't use power stacking for Blade between being a vamp and not being a vamp BECAUSE of the retcon. 😬

Originally posted by jinzin
I understand that. But.. well retcons matter... In any case the point to the retcon is a small matter.

The bottem line is that you can't use power stacking for Blade between being a vamp and not being a vamp BECAUSE of the retcon. 😬

Originally posted by jinzin
Blade was a vampire then, his history got retconned in his last series... You know that.

Bios after that state he was born human.

Originally posted by jinzin

Trackz... I'm curious... how old are you?

Originally posted by jinzin
Do you not understand what a retcon is?
Who are you to dismiss canon facts?

No. I'm asking you to find direct statements that quote Blade as being faster or stronger than any being that that has ever legitimately overpowered Spiderman etc.

Direct quotes saying specifically what Blade outstrips Sage in.

Saying he's one of the most powerful vampires is a pretty massive sweeping generalization which isn't much of a stretch, especially considering how the vast majority of fodder vamps are showcased as being. Wolverine was stated to be one of the most powerful X-men, that doesn't mean he can fly, or that he's the strongest or the fastest...

Sabretooth however IS directly quoted as being faster than Wolverine.. AND he's proven it. that's the difference. It's not a generalization, it's a specific advantage he has over someone who can match or outstrip everything Blade has to offer in the speed department.

Why you think that's the same as what your babbling about is beyond me... As I said, in order to claim Blade is faster than Sabretooth (and your suporters are making that claim) then you need to PROVE that he's faster than Wolverine since Sabretooth IS faster than Wolverine... And again, you can't.

The bottem line is that you can show all the fodder feats you like, all I have to say is "yeah well.. Sabretooth's faster than Wolverine" and it dismantles any delusions that Blade's superior to Creed in the speed department.

"What speed feats does Sabretooth have?"
He's faster than Wolverine... It isn't conjecture... that's a speed feat.
Trackz... I'm curious... how old are you?

prove sabretooth is faster than hannibal king, or jamal afari (who speed blitzed spiderman). Blade has speedblizted various vampires, heck spitfire wasn't fast enough to beat him (and she has admitted that blade can take her down)

this again, like most other fights come down to blade having not been mainstream marvel for a long time and thus not interacting with other characters.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I may be wrong but I could have sworn I've seen you say something about Wolverine not being written with a healing factor way back when or something along those lines once.

if wolverine is allowed to be used like this, this does in fact make generic vampire feats admissible for Blade simply because he is a vampire

dur

Man.. seriosuly... If you gonna keep creating new accounts all the time at least try not to be so obvious so you could stay and debate.

dur

go back to comicvine kineson at least there your behavior is tolerated and your debating style isnt frowned upon.

Originally posted by shine
i dont want to stay for too long

Whoa the italian is fast, he was banned before I could read his comments.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I may be wrong but I could have sworn I've seen you say something about Wolverine not being written with a healing factor way back when or something along those lines once.

No that was Sabretooth.

People want to use his lowest showings back when he didn't have a healing factor to say he can't tank damage or heal from it.

Not the same thing.

I REALIZE Blade hasn't always been written as a vampire. BUT you still can't power stack for him due to the retcon since it works retrospectively.

"well Blade was this strong BEFORE becoming a vampire... so NOW that he is one he's wayyy stronger".... Uh no.. it doesn't work that way.

Creed got served by Werewolf.