Sabertooth Vs. Blade

Started by jinzin59 pages

Originally posted by Trackz
prove sabretooth is faster than hannibal king, or jamal afari (who speed blitzed spiderman). Blade has speedblizted various vampires, heck spitfire wasn't fast enough to beat him (and she has admitted that blade can take her down)

this again, like most other fights come down to blade having not been mainstream marvel for a long time and thus not interacting with other characters.

Hannibal king doesn't have speed feats while in physical form that show him faster than well... anyone noteable.

Jamal didn't blitz Spiderman he hit him with a shovel and bit him while he was grounded.... Please stop with this nonsense. You tried to pass off this Afari crap as being > Spiderman before and it didn't work then.

Likewise.. even IF we were to accept that either of these characters are above Wolverine in terms of speed.... (we're not going to because they don't have the feats to suggest that, but just for arguments sake lets pretend) do you have direct quotes and proof showing Blade's faster AND it being stated? If so, please provide it.

Spitfire was certainly fast enough (She landed several attacks before Blade could begin defending himself) and she's already beaten him while coasting in neutral so that's nonsense. In any case, Blade didn't hold his own with Spitfire due to speed, but due to his ability to tank her hits enough to land his own... Again doesn't make him quicksilver.
It makes his damage soak well... at a "meh" level I suppose.

Well it does when you're trying to ignore Sabretooth's feats while boasting your own propaganda.

Sabretooth has feats against established characters with feats that can be compared to Blades and either hold their own or outstrip him completely.

Blade has generic feats which make him a typical street level, but no performances to claim he's a tier above the typical street kings. An argument you have to make in order to claim he's faster than Tooth.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Creed got served by Werewolf.

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Umm Yeah... Classic Creed got put at a disadvantage by WBN in full wolfed out mode... how that means anything compared to Blade and current Sabretooth..... I don't know... 😕

Originally posted by jinzin
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Umm Yeah... Classic Creed

also got his ass kicked by Black Cat 😂

Originally posted by jinzin
Hannibal king doesn't have speed feats while in physical form that show him faster than well... anyone noteable.

Jamal didn't blitz Spiderman he hit him with a shovel and bit him while he was grounded.... Please stop with this nonsense. You tried to pass off this Afari crap as being > Spiderman before and it didn't work then.

Likewise.. even IF we were to accept that either of these characters are above Wolverine in terms of speed.... (we're not going to because they don't have the feats to suggest that, but just for arguments sake lets pretend) do you have direct quotes and proof showing Blade's faster AND it being stated? If so, please provide it.

Spitfire was certainly fast enough (She landed several attacks before Blade could begin defending himself) and she's already beaten him while coasting in neutral so that's nonsense. In any case, Blade didn't hold his own with Spitfire due to speed, but due to his ability to tank her hits enough to land his own... Again doesn't make him quicksilver.
It makes his damage soak well... at a "meh" level I suppose.

Well it does when you're trying to ignore Sabretooth's feats while boasting your own propaganda.

Sabretooth has feats against established characters with feats that can be compared to Blades and either hold their own or outstrip him completely.

Blade has generic feats which make him a typical street level, but no performances to claim he's a tier above the typical street kings. An argument you have to make in order to claim he's faster than Tooth.

1. because blade's characters don't operate in mainstream marvel universe, hannibal and morbius have shown significant speed due their their vampirism.
2. doing this to someone with a spider-sense and can dodge bullets means a lot
3. at this point I'm not arguing who's faster, I'm only arguing that these feats and the feats of other generic vampires would be admissible for Blade because it has been stated many times by vampires and the narration that Blade is one of the more powerful vampires and that he has their strengths
4. spitfire vamping out was coasting in neutral? hardly. she also admits that Blade could beat her if she ever went berserk, and the fight ended in a stalemate, spitfire throwing Blade while he wasn't fighting is the equivalent of me saying Blade won the fight seeing as he had his sword at spitfire's throat when the fight ended.
5. I wasn't ignoring sabretooth's feas, I'm saying that if you want to use wolverine has a benchmark for sabretooths speed, I should be able to do the same for generic vampires and Blade, I'm not really arguing for Blade in this match as sabretooth would win, but that in other fights that these other vampries feats should be able to apply for Blade.
6. The character's feats don't outstrip Blade, Sabretooth has characters against mainstream characters, in blade fights people always fall back on that, the fact that mainstream character a has beaten mainstream character b who has tied with mainstream character c, while Blade has beaten character e, f, and g but they've never interacted with the mainstream ones.
7. Blade performs these feats against super-powered opponents, again using your argument I can apply generic vampire feats who one panel Blade has been stated to be superior to which does make Blade far above any street level.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
also got his ass kicked by Black Cat 😂
The weird thing is, they retconned Saberooth not having a HF but they didnt retcon the fight with Black Cat. So basically she beat classic Saberooth.😐

Don't **** with Black Cat (unless of course you can do it literally).

Originally posted by jinzin
No that was Sabretooth.

People want to use his lowest showings back when he didn't have a healing factor to say he can't tank damage or heal from it.

Not the same thing.

I REALIZE Blade hasn't always been written as a vampire. BUT you still can't power stack for him due to the retcon since it works retrospectively.

"well Blade was this strong BEFORE becoming a vampire... so NOW that he is one he's wayyy stronger".... Uh no.. it doesn't work that way.

This pretty much looks like hypocrisy to me.

Originally posted by Deadline
This pretty much looks like hypocrisy to me.

Says the guy who thinks Omega Red can take Logan without death pheromones and life drain (DF). Wow.

Originally posted by Deadline
This pretty much looks like hypocrisy to me.

Honestly I don't think u understand what that word mean, becuase your not using it correctly.'

Spitfire would f*cking rape Creed.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Spitfire would f*cking rape Creed.

If she fought Creed like she did Blade, she would have had her head ripped off.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
If she fought Creed like she did Blade, she would have had her head ripped off.
She would f*ck him up son.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Why would she rip her own head off?

I never said she ripp off her head, i implied that sabre-tooth would.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
She would f*ck him up son.

If she fought Sabre-tooth like she does Blade she get ****ed up.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
If she fought Sabre-tooth like she does Blade she get ****ed up.
If she fought Creed like she did Blade Creed would be a dead man.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
If she fought Creed like she did Blade Creed would be a dead man.

in your delusional mind perhaps, but in reality she would have had her head ripped off.

grabbing sabre-tooth hand lol, be the worst idea ever.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
in your delusional mind perhaps, but in reality she would have had her head ripped off.

grabbing sabre-tooth hand lol, be the worst idea ever.

She's got Creed beat in everything.

If Blade whispered in Sabretooth's ear I agree Creed might have a better shot.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
She's got Creed beat in everything.

no she doesent.

and in forum match she utterly rape blade.......

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
no she doesent.

and in forum match she utterly rape blade.......

She's stronger, faster, better healer, fighter, better looking and so on.