"There is no gene for the human spirit"

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Originally posted by Superfly4000
that is my problem, i need proof first to have faith in something. faith to me is being blind to the world around you. Knowledge is the enemy of faith. If knowledge were to support faith and faith support knowledge, then i would be at peace.

You do have faith. How do you know that proof is needed to support the existence of something ? Its because you have faith... or you can prove that ?

Faith is not the enemy of knowledge, it is needed for knowledge, philosophers define knowledge as being "justified beliefs", or beliefs that need to be justified, they can be justified by proof for example.

I wouldn't say that I have faith in knowledge. I question science and mathematics as much as I question religion and spirituality. My problem is that both make sense to me and in order for me to have peace and need them to find a common ground. If the soul does exist as you believe, then there would undoubtedly be a scientific way to find it. But, if the soul only exists if you have faith in its existance, then you have created the soul and the soul did not exist before hand. i am in search of a universal answer to solve all questions from all directions.

Originally posted by Superfly4000
I wouldn't say that I have faith in knowledge. I question science and mathematics as much as I question religion and spirituality. My problem is that both make sense to me and in order for me to have peace and need them to find a common ground. If the soul does exist as you believe, then there would undoubtedly be a scientific way to find it. But, if the soul only exists if you have faith in its existance, then you have created the soul and the soul did not exist before hand. i am in search of a universal answer to solve all questions from all directions.

People have been looking at this question for a long time. Seek out the answers they came up with and with your questioning heart find the answer that works for you. We can not give you that answer, each of us have our own.

If I make up something like the soul, then string theory suggests that the thing (soul or what ever) does now exist in some alternate universe, and if something exists, then it has always existed. Now this is a stretch, but something to think about.

I did not mean to believe in science without questioning it like blind faith, but you need to have faith in empirism, and scientifical method, and scientific postulates. Every logical system has basic rules or postulates, those postulates are assumed to be true, they are believed to be true. Newtons law´s are postulates, and there are many other postulated things in science. You can´prove Newtons laws, you can just believe them. Newton´s laws is like soul, first intuition leads Newton to believe in his laws, then he assume them to be true, them he make deductions from his assumptions, but he cannot prove them.

I dont believe in science nor religion. But some aspects of them make perfect since to me. This is why i need both of the seperate peices to become connected to that i can build a sort of faith in an idea and build upon that.

Yeah... I understand what you say, I think our goal is always have faith, or have the intuitive notion of a concept, but to have these we need a lot of concepts, and definitions to help us reaching the goals

Maybe our consciousness is like the quantum and does not possess any single and precise location at all....Maybe sometimes it seems to be inside our heads, and sometimes via the infinite interconnectedness of the quantum landscape, it seems to go elsewhere, as in clairvoyance or astral projection...But in truth it never goes anywhere at all....It simply access whatever perspective on the universe it wants through nonlocal realms...from which it operates.....May be infinite just like the universe and quantum is...all connected...only some realize it.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Maybe our consciousness is like the quantum and does not possess any single and precise location at all....Maybe sometimes it seems to be inside our heads, and sometimes via the infinite interconnectedness of the quantum landscape, it seems to go elsewhere, as in clairvoyance or astral projection...But in truth it never goes anywhere at all....It simply access whatever perspective on the universe it wants through nonlocal realms...from which it operates.....May be infinite just like the universe and quantum is...all connected...only some realize it.

Quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum, quantum. 😛

The Soul
always liked the blues better

Originally posted by finti
always liked the blues better

Blues + soul = R&B

just blues,.....r&b has turned into singers with voice masturbation

Originally posted by finti
just blues,.....r&b has turned into singers with voice masturbation

😂 😆

Is that what that is called. I've always called it " Oh Sh*t! lets get out of here".

Is that what that is called. I've always called it " Oh Sh*t! lets get out of here".
yes thats whats it called, what you suggested is the action R&B leads to

I've heard that the middle of our brain is believed to contain the soul.

No it's in the upper left corner of the brain 😉

No seriously, [the] soul must simply be whatever you feel is the reason you're living and not having a death wish, right? Or, whatever makes you see the meaning in the everyday.

I think the universe is about what WE believe, and everything in it is about what we believe.

So everything is in the mind?

Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
I think the universe is about what WE believe, and everything in it is about what we believe.
The universe would still exist if we weren't here to believe in it.