"There is no gene for the human spirit"

Started by Shakyamunison6 pages
Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
You're still alive. Aslong as your body can survive your Soul will stay until it can't. And if your soul stays the universe will.

This is the logic of a child.

Example; Brushing my teeth will prevent cavities so if I brush them harder and more often any cavities I have will go away.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
This is the logic of a child.

Example; Brushing my teeth will prevent cavities so if I brush them harder and more often any cavities I have will go away.

The Bible says that if you think like an innocent child you'd make it to heaven 😄

Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
The Bible says that if you think like an innocent child you'd make it to heaven 😄

"Logic of a child" and "thinking like a child" are two different things. "Thinking like a child" is looking at the world and seeing the wonder, "Logic of a child" is putting things together that do not go together. When I say "Logic of a child" or "thinking like a child" I am not saying that you are childish. "Thinking like a child" is a great way to come up with new ideas but you should always step back and us logic to see if the idea works.

So are you against what i said or for?

From what I can surmise he's saying the things that you've said are illogical and/or simplistic.

And how'd does anyone know how the soul works? Or should I say, believe we have one.

Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
So are you against what i said or for?

It's not a matter of for or against. Your model violates some basic rules:
1. Perception is not needed for an event to take place.
2. Energy can not be lost only changed.
3. The simpler answer is usually the correct one.

So, here is a simpler answer; If every one dies, then everyone dies and the universe goes on.

Yeah....like I said energy cannot be destroyed, just changes form... 😎

Originally posted by Legend Of Chibi
And how'd does anyone know how the soul works? Or should I say, believe we have one.

Exactly my point

Well I have explained the way, which is the only idea which seems to fit the path, and it's possible.

In quantum physics there is what is called the antropic principle or point of view, that is exaclty the one that nothing would exist if there was no one to observe it. Everything is wavefunctions until we become aware of it, and measure it, example, a electron which you put inside a box, is not really inside it until you open it and become aware of it being inside it. If no one was here to observe the universe it would be a giant wavefunction, it would be a possibility, not reality, it would be like parallel universes( we are not there to observe them so they are just possibilites).

This do not disagrees with the principle of conservation of the energy.

Originally posted by Atlantis001
In quantum physics there is what is called the antropic principle or point of view, that is exaclty the one that nothing would exist if there was no one to observe it. Everything is wavefunctions until we become aware of it, and measure it, example, a electron which you put inside a box, is not really inside it until you open it and become aware of it being inside it. If no one was here to observe the universe it would be a giant wavefunction, it would be a possibility, not reality, it would be like parallel universes( we are not there to observe them so they are just possibilites).

This do not disagrees with the principle of conservation of the energy.

I am aware of that principle but it's often misapplied. Just because you don't know if there is a live or dead cat in the box, does not mean that there is two cats in the box. This only applies to knowing what you know and do not know.

Isn't it interesting that certain atoms can emit two photons simultaneously, which travel away from each other in opposite directions at the speed of the light...The photons are polarized..they travel in angular horizontal, vertical or any angle in between.....When the two photons simultaneously, are fired they stay correlated. When one path is changed using filters such as polarization filters, the other also changes its direction.....It is conceivable that the two photons could have been traveling apart for thousands or millions or more years emitted eons ago by a distant galaxy...It seems clear that any two photons emitted simultaneously remain eternally in COMMUNICATION with one another over great distances and time periods....When in 1982 another experiment was conducted going faster than the speed of light, and the results were crucial and proved one of two things...that 1. Either objective reality simply does not exist beyond the mind of the observer, or 2. Faster than light communications ...meaning communication with the past and the future is theoretically and actually possible.... This was published as "Experimental Tests of Realistic Local Theories via Bell's Theorem."
So, it is possible that events that many experience or see at another vibration level are actually real...just crossing dimensions more like looking at lines drawn on a hexagonal tiled floor that join there paths at times and diverge at other times.....This is somewhat different from parallel universes of Many universes theory..This is more holographic .eternally cool....

Originally posted by debbiejo
Isn't it interesting that certain atoms can emit two photons simultaneously, which travel away from each other in opposite directions at the speed of the light...The photons are polarized..they travel in angular horizontal, vertical or any angle in between.....When the two photons simultaneously, are fired they stay correlated. When one path is changed using filters such as polarization filters, the other also changes its direction.....It is conceivable that the two photons could have been traveling apart for thousands or millions or more years emitted eons ago by a distant galaxy...It seems clear that any two photons emitted simultaneously remain eternally in [B]COMMUNICATION with one another over great distances and time periods....When in 1982 another experiment was conducted going faster than the speed of light, and the results were crucial and proved one of two things...that 1. Either objective reality simply does not exist beyond the mind of the observer, or 2. Faster than light communications ...meaning communication with the past and the future is theoretically and actually possible.... This was published as "Experimental Tests of Realistic Local Theories via Bell's Theorem."
So, it is possible that events that many experience or see at another vibration level are actually real...just crossing dimensions more like looking at lines drawn on a hexagonal tiled floor that join there paths at times and diverge at other times.....This is somewhat different from parallel universes of Many universes theory..This is more holographic .eternally cool.... [/B]

There is a third possibility, this is my theory; all things extend into the nothingness (or other remote dimensions) so the true nature of the universe is mostly unseen. There is a possibility that the two polarized photons are the same photon. The wave aspect of a photon acts as more than one photon or an infinite number photons. So, a beam of photons emitted one at a time traveling through a slotted grid will have the same wave cancellation as a beam with photons emitted more than one at a time.

The only way I can explain this is as follows; imagine a two dimensional plane, now wrap the plane into a cylinder, I pass a pole through the cylinder at right angles. To a flat lander, the two parts of the pole that intersect the cylinder plane will appear to be polarized in their opposite travel. If I change the direction of one intersection I will change the direction of the other without going faster than light. Now do the same thing with 4 or 5 or 6 dimensions, without going crazy.

I don't think anyone really has the authority to claim real knowledge of the existence and meaning of 'energy', 'soul', 'perception', etc.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Isn't it interesting that certain atoms can emit two photons simultaneously, which travel away from each other in opposite directions at the speed of the light...The photons are polarized..they travel in angular horizontal, vertical or any angle in between.....When the two photons simultaneously, are fired they stay correlated. When one path is changed using filters such as polarization filters, the other also changes its direction.....It is conceivable that the two photons could have been traveling apart for thousands or millions or more years emitted eons ago by a distant galaxy...It seems clear that any two photons emitted simultaneously remain eternally in [B]COMMUNICATION with one another over great distances and time periods....When in 1982 another experiment was conducted going faster than the speed of light, and the results were crucial and proved one of two things...that 1. Either objective reality simply does not exist beyond the mind of the observer, or 2. Faster than light communications ...meaning communication with the past and the future is theoretically and actually possible.... This was published as "Experimental Tests of Realistic Local Theories via Bell's Theorem."
So, it is possible that events that many experience or see at another vibration level are actually real...just crossing dimensions more like looking at lines drawn on a hexagonal tiled floor that join there paths at times and diverge at other times.....This is somewhat different from parallel universes of Many universes theory..This is more holographic .eternally cool.... [/B]

Some explain that the motive of why the information is travelling faster than the speed of light is that the wave function( the wave associated to the particle) travels not in the 3 dimensional space, I think the superstring theory try to explain non locality this way. Others say that the wave function has not a physical meaning ( what can be true, since it is just a mathematical tool, and it is a complex number function) and if it has not a physical meaning we have no problem if it travels faster than lightning speed( things with no physical meaning don´t exist, and they are not limited to physical laws they are just tools), but then this type of nonlocal communication which the particles exhibit wouldn´t have physical meaning too. It will not have any practical application like using it to signal information.

The way I understand the objective reality wouldn´t exist if you say that nonlocal communication isn´t real, because if communication isn´t real then wave function isn´t real, and the wave function is the objective reality since it is what "exists" when no one is there to see; wavefunction is the description of reality without the observer influencing, just like objective reality is understood.

You guys are talking real science here 🙂

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is a third possibility, this is my theory; all things extend into the nothingness (or other remote dimensions) so the true nature of the universe is mostly unseen. There is a possibility that the two polarized photons are the same photon. The wave aspect of a photon acts as more than one photon or an infinite number photons. So, a beam of photons emitted one at a time traveling through a slotted grid will have the same wave cancellation as a beam with photons emitted more than one at a time.

The only way I can explain this is as follows; imagine a two dimensional plane, now wrap the plane into a cylinder, I pass a pole through the cylinder at right angles. To a flat lander, the two parts of the pole that intersect the cylinder plane will appear to be polarized in their opposite travel. If I change the direction of one intersection I will change the direction of the other without going faster than light. Now do the same thing with 4 or 5 or 6 dimensions, without going crazy.

OH....you made a special circle...... 😄 .....Or is that gods wedding ring........

Originally posted by debbiejo
OH....you made a special circle...... 😄 .....Or is that gods wedding ring........

Stick and stone will brake my bones, 😱 so don't throw sticks and stones.