Wont Anakin hate Palpatine when he finds out he....

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Wont Anakin hate Palpatine when he finds out he....

Someone at TFN mentioned that it seems that Anakin doesnt seem to make the connection that Palpatine is behind the plot to kill Padme. I find this interesting. How will Lucas deal with this? I mean really, you'd think Anakin would be seriously pissed about this.

I'm not sure that Palps is involved in the plot to kill Padme. I think that Nute Gunray (spelling?) has it in for here and Palps just lets it go on.

Oh hes definitely in on it. He's always said everything has happened as he has planned or forseen it.

ha she has a point

Perhaps he explaines to Anakin that no one was really trying to kill Padme but he needed it to look that way so he could suggest that she be put under the protection of the Jedi. Therefore he could suggest that she be placed under the protection of Master Kenobi which would bring Padme and Anakin together and give Anakin what Palpatine knows he wants.

Now there's a thought.......but how does he explain that he's been trying to kill Anakin? If Dooku is following Palpatines orders when he tries to have Padme, OB and Anakin killed at the arena how would he explain that?

Palpatine has faith in Anakin's abilities. Dooku is probably just another one of Palpatine's pawns to get Anakin to the point where he wants him to be, and putting his love in danger would get a reaction out of Anakin that Palpatine would want.

I like this guys explanation at TFN

I see no reason why, by the OT, Vader won't be fully aware of Palpatine's past schemes. Anakin was naive in AOTC, but he won't be nearly so naive in ROTS. He can't lead a bloody raid on the Jedi temple and imagine that he's somehow above it all. He's joining the Dark Side, not some college fraternity. It's like joining the Mafia; he quickly learns that to get the power he wants, he has to play by some very brutal rules. If a mobster's wife held a powerful position and crossed the don, the mobster would understand that the don must respond. Same thing here. Padme has opposed Palpatine/Sidious's schemes every step of the way. At the beginning of the film Anakin might not understand the full consequences of his turn, but he will by the end. Certainly by the OT, he's accepted the barbaric nature of the Dark Side. He can't well hold Palpatine's evil against him, when he himself is just as guilty.

Yep! That pretty much sums it up. 😉

Err... Sidious isn't specifically trying to kill Padme. He doesn't care if she lives or dies.

Dooku was trying to kill Padme as part of his larger brief to set up the Confederacy. As part of this, Nute Gunray's condition was that Padme had to die. Sidious never gave him a direct order to kill her; Dooku organised her death as part of carrying out broader orders. And even that didn't concern him that much; he stopped trying once Obi-Wan found the dart and only did it again because she had actually COME to Geonosis, and as it is, in the end, he didn't need to kill her as the war started anyway... it was never anything personal, except with Gunray.

So Sidious himself had no specific Padme-killing objective (after all, he would be the LAST person to fail because she used a double- he knows full well she uses doubles to protect herself, he's FROM Naboo etc!). Remember, he delegated a heck of a lot to Dooku. Sure, he knows of it, but so what? By the time Anakin suspects anything like that he'll have stopped caring.

I don't think Anakin is political savvy. He doesn't understand politics. He is blind to everything Palpatine does and thinks he is a good man. Palpatine is giving Anakin positive reinforcement for his abilities. It would be hard for him to see Palpatine as a crook.

"He's a polititian, and they are not to be trusted." --- Obi Wan AOTC "He seams like a good man to me." --- Anakin AOTC.

Hey PVS, I'm voting Bush. There you go.. 1 for Bush.
Kerry is slick. Reminds me of Clinton and he's so far left he's foul.

anakin said in episode2 that he liked politicians one or 2 while him padame were in field so he was part of political process in some way but got really angry in some ways when they talk bad about palpatine so I think he used anakin to get him on his side to turn him to the dark side.

Originally posted by kingcoot
Hey PVS, I'm voting Bush. There you go.. 1 for Bush.
Kerry is slick. Reminds me of Clinton and he's so far left he's foul.

You know who Bush reminds me of? Bush. He reminds me of the only person i need to be reminded of to be disgusted by him. Which is himself.

lol.. i love people that are brainwashed by Bush's rhetoric. anyone notice how bush has all the repubs calling dems all liberals now?? What a great way to "bring the country together" Bush!! there is a difference between a liberal and a dem.. I know a lot of liberals, and Kerry is not one of them, trust me.... and the mainstream media is FAR from liberal.. what a load of crap.. i get so sick of hearing that phony manipulative term "liberal media".. the #1 biggest news corporation is FOX news.. and if you think that's liberal, you're an idiot.

sorry, off topic, but i had to respond... gettin so sick of this pathetic little tactic repubs have started using to wipe out democrats by calling them liberals now.

Originally posted by kingcoot
Hey PVS, I'm voting Bush. There you go.. 1 for Bush.
Kerry is slick. Reminds me of Clinton and he's so far left he's foul.

well im real f***ing proud of you!!! 😖
if you want to talk politics, take it to the general discussion forum.
BTW, notice this is my first post on this thread, which REALLY
baffles me as to why you would post that. 😖

so, on the topic

dispite popular belief, i think that anakin's kinship with palps will turn stale the moment vader wakes up as a machine. everything that was dear to him will have been taken away, and all that would be left is his quest for power.
i think that in the end vader will realise that palps masterminded the whole think, as palps loves to brag.

also, i think there is another factor which leaves vader bound to the emporer. "you dont know the power of the darkside, i must obey my master" "its too late for me, son." vader seems to wish he had the power to break free from the emporer, but cant.

Originally posted by PVS

also, i think there is another factor which leaves vader bound to the emperor. "you dont know the power of the darkside, i must obey my master" "its too late for me, son." vader seems to wish he had the power to break free from the emporer, but cant.

I agree ... I think the Emperor will look much more powerful than we ever thought after Ep. 3

and just my opinion but....Anyone voting for Bush who isnt a corperate tycoon is a zombie... wake up ... we have crooks running our country

Yes, i agree.

QUIT DERAILING MY THREAD WITH %$@$#!!! POLITICS!! blowup

^^^ You should have told GL not to derail my Star Wars with politics... wish you were crackin the whip on him back then ...someone should have been LOL

Sorry JP. I just had to comment on PVS's Owned pictures and quote. I've seen each new debate picture with owned over Bush's head. BTW, before this post, I had only posted once. So there you go PVS.

Brainwashed? whatever..(Not responding to PVS here as he did not make that comment. I'm referring to Gangularis. He's way off the truth, but that isn't for this thread.) I'm going back to not posting.