Who is kerry? Who is bush? Who cares?
JP, your question is great, it makes me think about the intricate relationship that Vader/Palpatine will have in the next decades...
Is Anakin ready to embrace the dark side? He will be between Padme and Power, and choose the "Pawa" path? I still remind lucas saying that "Anakin was 'tricked' to choose the dark side" How it comes? He will be the ally of the one who plots the surrender of the galaxy... th one who made his wife's worst dream come true.
at the start of aotc palpatine says that he would hate to see anything bad happen to padme, and then looks like he's gonna puke....he hates her bad, and wishes she was well dead.....anakin will be furious when he comes to and realises the truth, but where else can he go?....the jedi are all dead, so he can either join palpatine, and be the second most powerful person in the universe (and he does so love the power), or he can go die in the gutter....there is also still the small matter of whether it is only palpatine/ the darkside that is keeping him alive at all...."only now, at the end, do you understand".....
It's a big fat mess.
This is what Lucas gets for having almost every character (even seemingly unrelated characters from the OT like C3PO) related/someones cousin/older master/maker(wtf).
Fans will pick it apart - why? Because it deserves to be picked apart. These movies are supposed to be perfect with all that money thrown into them.
"Movies aren't ever perfect" I hear some cry many a time on this board, but the truth is, the new Star Wars movies aren't even close to being acceptable in terms of plots and everything that has gone before it, and the fact that half the EU explanations are way better anyway. At least they didn't have us believe Darth Vader built C3PO.
Originally posted by ESP07
Perhaps he explaines to Anakin that no one was really trying to kill Padme but he needed it to look that way so he could suggest that she be put under the protection of the Jedi. Therefore he could suggest that she be placed under the protection of Master Kenobi which would bring Padme and Anakin together and give Anakin what Palpatine knows he wants.
Perhaps Palpatine will verbally push Anakin along in the duel with Dooku by stating that he(Dooku) was behind the attempts on her life.
But, I think you're explaination is the best so far.
Gee, I really habve no uidea why you all think Palpatine was personally trying to have Padme killed in AOTC. That simply does not bear up to close examination.
Mind you, he WAS trying to do that in Episode I...
In the meanwhile, if these political comments continue it is going to be warnings and/or bannings for offenders. And making pointless comments like "I am done now" cuts no ice with me- post politics in a topic around here, even just the once, and that's trouble; trying to weasel out by saying that is all you have to say only aggravates matters.
Originally posted by UshgarakI really habve no uidea why you all think Palpatine was personally trying to have Padme killed in AOTC. That simply does not bear up to close examination.
Gee, I really habve no uidea why you all think Palpatine was personally trying to have Padme killed in AOTC. That simply does not bear up to close examination.Mind you, he WAS trying to do that in Episode I...
In the meanwhile, if these political comments continue it is going to be warnings and/or bannings for offenders. And making pointless comments like "I am done now" cuts no ice with me- post politics in a topic around here, even just the once, and that's trouble; trying to weasel out by saying that is all you have to say only aggravates matters.
Jango instructed the 'changer' to kill padme, jango was hired by dooku who worked for sideous/palpatine
I don't think Anakin really gets it till the end,ROTJ. I think that there's a lot going on in his mind because of finding out that he has kids. The emperor is so cocky at this time that I don't think he thinks Vader can think for himself. He thinks he is totally loyal to him. That's when I think Vader starts to put 2 and 2 together and it equals the emperor. I think that's when he finally figures it out and will not take it anymore. He had a hand in the death of his wife and now will be doing away with his kids as well. Vader didn't kill the emperor, Anakin did.
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss i agree with darth daddy my sentiments exactly... and who ever bashed the preequal trilogy up there should not consider them selfs a fan. any true star wars fan loves all that is involved with the unaverse of star wars picking apart movies is fun but if u don't like a star wars film then ur not a star wars fan..... unless ur talken about the kids movies about ewokes and such
Originally posted by darthcraka
any true star wars fan loves all that is involved with the unaverse of star wars picking apart movies is fun but if u don't like a star wars film then ur not a star wars fan...
what a load of crap.
god i hate the 'real fan' speech, its so generic and
self-rightous, so please spare us the 'high and mighty'
fan routine. we are all star wars fans whether or not we choose
to point out its flaws...sorry, but that old line just rubs me the wrong way.
Originally posted by darthcraka
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss i agree with darth daddy my sentiments exactly... and who ever bashed the preequal trilogy up there should not consider them selfs a fan. any true star wars fan loves all that is involved with the unaverse of star wars picking apart movies is fun but if u don't like a star wars film then ur not a star wars fan..... unless ur talken about the kids movies about ewokes and such
That was obviously directed twoards me, and I'm glad PVS got there first with a good reply to such a stupid comment.
I bet you were expecting a round of applause or something. Too bad not everyone sucks on George Lucas' mammary glands as much as you do.
Talk about attack of the clones............... 🙄
yeah yeah screw u i love all that is star wars flaws are part of the picture the OT has its flaws aswell but if u can say that u dont like one of the movies becouse of its flaws then ur not a fan of star wars ur just a fan of the OT
like i said picken apart is fun but if u can say u don't like one of the movies then ur not much of a fan