How come a woman can't never be a prist in the Catholic faith?

Originally posted by Darth Revan
Judaism isn't quite as bad as Islam and Christianity. Orthodox Judaism, yes, but in the more modern forms, I think women are fairly equal. I know of a female rabbi or two around here.

But you're right about "pagan" religions having a decent place for women. In some ancient pagan nature-worshipping type religion, women were considered sacred, being able to bear children and such.

Did you know that in ancient Egyptian culture, women had as many rights as men? More in fact, depending on the situation. There were female Pharoahs. In acient Egypt, they had more rights than they did in later Greek and Roman cultures.

So much for evolution.

Yep, I knew that. It wasn't uncommon for women to be single and own property.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
Yep, I knew that. It wasn't uncommon for women to be single and own property.

Cheers, I thought I liked you.....

There are accounts of a number of women who were taken by native people in North America in battles or when in conflict with the early colonists... they were treated as members of their society, especially the Haudenosaunee, people of the long house... when they were forced to be returned to the white settlers, often time they would not wish to leave. If they did leave often times they would run away from the colonists and return to their adoptive culture... the basic organization of their society was based upon their spiritual beleifs. In their organization women were treated with respect and held positions of power, clan mothers had the power to chose and to remove their chiefs if they were not acting in the interests of the people. It was "society and religion inextricably intertwined"...

One example of a religion that women could understandably find attractive... granted native spirituality isnt a mainstream religion, but it was for many people before the white man ****ed it all up....

Haudenosaunee

Heh, funny you mention that, some distant relative on my dad's side was captured by a band of Ojibwe and ended up having several children with one of them.

some distant relative on my dad's side was captured by a band of Ojibwe and ended up having several children with one of them.

Because you know, that's such a bad thing 🙄

😂

Originally posted by finti
or Iroquois as they might be better known as

They perfer to be called by their own name for themselves, rather than the name the colonizers assigned them.

Wow, I'm surprised you made a thread like this Jackie.

Seneca rules

What do you mean Seneca rules?

Senaca, one of the six nation of Haudenosaunee.

I used to read this series by Donald Clayton Porter, he portrayed the life in the new world starting around 1680 and it is about the Senaca tribe and it follows the events up until the last book I was able to get a hold of(bok 20) right after the battle of fallen timber.
The series was called The Colonization of America, but it really portray this indian family of the Seneca tribe

huh... I know some about the 6 nations ( i think there were actually seven nations in the federation of the Iroquios, but the seventh one came much later)... I guess I couldnt really remember who the Seneca were exactly. I am actually doing some study on indigenous people of North America now while im at school. Its interesting stuff... really contrasts with what western society teaches. It really engages your thought...

I still dont exactly get your response though "Seneca rules" what are the Seneca rules? Is that the name of the book series you read? I tried looking it up, but came up empty.

i think there were actually seven nations in the federation of the Iroquios, but the seventh one came much later

Seneca rules is just I always liked the Seneca the best, and the stories in that series is about the Seneca tribe

Right on... thanks for clarifying. How do you know so much about native americans? We just finished up a section on Huedensaunee religon and spirituality... but their government was set up in a really cool way, we talked about that in the intro to Indigenous studies last semester. Yeah... you dont see many Seneca people where I live, although there are a lot of Ojibwe and Dakota/Lakota people in my part of the country.

How do you know so much about native americans?

Ojibwe and Dakota/Lakota

Yeah... the Sioux really were a bunch of bad asses back in the day, fierce. But they both worked together to take care of the 7th Cavalry... so they could work together when they had to.

Those who defeated Custer at little Big Horn was Sioux, Cheyenne, and Arapaho.