Episode I sucked!

one thing that dissapointed me alot about the prequels is the relationship thus far between obi wan and anakin , too many "my young padawn"s & "my very young apprentice"s when there shouldve been more stress on thier friendship and so its more of a shock and betrayal when anakin turns , this of course is just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions ...... anywayz , neither prequel was perfect but the were by no means bad movies , imho they were great movies , im sure ep 3 will more than make up for anyone feeling flat after the prequels because i gotta hunch this film is what weve all been waiting for

Yeah, Anakin keeps saying "he's like my father". Prove it.

So far it's just Anakin and Obi-Wan, master and apprentice. The only dialogue that seemed to connect the two on a friendship level was in the lift going to see Padme, the rest of dialogue was arguing.

This is why I was such an advocate of having Attack Of The Clones in Episode 1, or at least having Obi-Wan be the one who finds Anakin, and takes it "upon himself" to train him. I'm still quite baffled as to why Qui Gonn was needed. Having Obi-Wan do Qui Gonns role in Episode 1 would mean the friendship between Anakin and Obi-Wan was there.

As far as Episode 1 was concerned, Obi-Wan was "lumbered" with Anakin. Imagine how much better it would have been if the saga kicked off with Anakain being a slave up until, say, Lukes age in ANH, and Obi-Wan doing the freeing. It would still have the "mirroring" of the ANH in that Obi-Wan took the Skywalkers off on their adventures at the same age, and both ended up being very different to each other. That would have been so much cooler than seeing such a forced relationship in Attack of The Clones, and Anakins betrayal in Revenge Of The Sith would have meant so much more.

Actually, you thought up a pretty good use for Qui-Gonn. Switch his character with Obi-Wan.

In my opinion, Qui-Gonn acted more like Obi-Wan "claimed" he used to be like. Qui-Gonn should have been more like Mace Windu, wary of Anakin, and DIDN'T want him to be trained.

I actually wanted Yoda to be Obi-Wans direct master, because that was how it was ORIGINALLY in the OT ("The Jedi master who instructed me", and "I thought I could teach him just as well as Yoda" implies that Obi-Wan was ONLY taught by Yoda). Qui-Gonn was a new character just for the sake of making new sh*t up.

But, it would have been so much cooler if Obi-Wan discovered Anakin, and took it upon himself to free him and train him.

There was never any need for Lucas to re-write the saga and make stuff up that isn't needed. There was a better way of doing it.

About the complaints of AOTC being a CGI fest and that it sucked because of that....didn't TPM have just about the same amount of CGI as AOTC? 😖

Maybe AOTC had more, because in Episode 1, alot of it takes place on Tatooine, which most of it was not CGI. But between both movies, it was pretty close.

Granted Episode 1 did have cgi close to AOTC. But to me it seemed in TPM that the cgi was used in the right way. A little bit here, a little bit there. In AOTC it just seemed everything was cgi, and that took away from the feel of the movie. Lucas has to learn that less is more.

Less is ALWAYS more, you are right. It's one of the main reasons why the OT is far superior.

I'm so glad Lucas made those movies when he couldn't get his hands on CGI to replace 90% of his scenes.

Originally posted by Red Superfly
Less is ALWAYS more, you are right. It's one of the main reasons why the OT is far superior.

I'm so glad Lucas made those movies when he couldn't get his hands on CGI to replace 90% of his scenes.

I get chills when I think of what Darth VAder would hva e looked like if he had had the technology.

My opion on Episode I...

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...I like it..

Why? Because it's sort of thsi fantastical adaptation of the Star Wars universe, and it's really like a fantasy, and a legend, and through that storybook atmosphere, it works for a legend before the down time.

Originally posted by tpaquin
I get chills when I think of what Darth VAder would have looked like if he had had the technology.

He would be NOWHERE NEAR as cool as the Darth Vader we all know.

Think about it, Vader's image comes DIRECTLY from the opening scene of ANH.

Vader had a breathing mask because "he had to get from the Star Destroyer to the other ship". It was NOT because Lucas came up with him being a burned out husk of a dead man underneth on life support. He was just a man in a space suit.

The fact that Lucas was restricted in the locations he could have, he could only do tight corridors and ship interiors for the first movie because of the budget.

The whole reason why Darth Vader has a breathing mask is because. The opening scene happened to be a "crossing from ship to ship" scene.

Now, what if Lucas had the technology/money of today? He'd be allowed to have his wonderful planets, and there is a good chance that if the first ever scene with Darth Vader DIDN'T NEED a space suit, then it's also highly likely that Vader wouldn't be in any kind of space suit.

Vader didn't start out as Anakin Skywalker burnt up, he started out as a thug who killed Lukes father.
Watch the documentaries - it's only because Vader is boarding a space ship does he wear a mask. The artist and George Lucas didn't come up with the reason WHY he was in the space suit until after ANH was done.
What if Lucas had his way, and Vader never boarded a ship in his first scene? He would NOT be anywhere near the same CHARACTER we know and love today.

Originally posted by Red Superfly
He would be NOWHERE NEAR as cool as the Darth Vader we all know.

Think about it, Vader's image comes DIRECTLY from the opening scene of ANH.

Vader had a breathing mask because "he had to get from the Star Destroyer to the other ship". It was NOT because Lucas came up with him being a burned out husk of a dead man underneth on life support. He was just a man in a space suit.

The fact that Lucas was restricted in the locations he could have, he could only do tight corridors and ship interiors for the first movie because of the budget.

The whole reason why Darth Vader has a breathing mask is because. The opening scene happened to be a "crossing from ship to ship" scene.

Now, what if Lucas had the technology/money of today? He'd be allowed to have his wonderful planets, and there is a good chance that if the first ever scene with Darth Vader DIDN'T NEED a space suit, then it's also highly likely that Vader wouldn't be in any kind of space suit.

Vader didn't start out as Anakin Skywalker burnt up, he started out as a thug who killed Lukes father.
Watch the documentaries - it's only because Vader is boarding a space ship does he wear a mask. The artist and George Lucas didn't come up with the reason WHY he was in the space suit until after ANH was done.
What if Lucas had his way, and Vader never boarded a ship in his first scene? He would NOT be anywhere near the same CHARACTER we know and love today.

OK, cool.

Imagine if he had the technology to have the first scene on, say, Alderaan? Darth Vader wouldn't need the breathing mask (people at the back, remember, this was Lucas' only reason for Vaders breathing apparatus at that time). What would he look like? An alien? I bet so.

Just because Lucas has all this CGI, he's gone into alien overload. Alien this, alien that, droids here, droids there. Where are the f**cking humans Lucas?

I bet if Lucas had his way with the Trilogy, Darth Vader would be a CGI rodian who could spin his head round 360 degrees, turn his arm into a toaster and curl up into a flying ball and attack X-Wings in space.

X-Wings wouldn't be X-Wings, they'd be Transformers. "Optimus Prime standing by - lock S-foils in truck mode".

Princess Leia would look like Sy Snootles, chewbacca would have all the onscreen presence of Jar Jar Binks.

And Stormtroopers would be clones of Boba Fetts dad - oh, hang on.........

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o well, guess the OT was made at the right time with the right people for the characters. Guess certain things happen for a reason. And dont say it's because of the force. lol.

Originally posted by ElvesRule24/7
o well, guess the OT was made at the right time with the right people for the characters. Guess certain things happen for a reason. And dont say it's because of the force. lol.

It's because of money.

true dat

Originally posted by Superfly4000
I'm sorry, as a Star Wars fan I have to admit that Star Wars episode I sucked. I wish there was a way to re-edit it. Does any one know how I could do that, or anywhere that i can find a re-edited version of it?

What is wrong with you man? I mean a true Star Wars fan wouldn't even say any Star Wars movie sucked. They would see it in any perspective. At the end of the day, it's your fault if you read the script early so you spoilt it for yourself.

I mean, you saying "Episode I sucked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", so what? George ain't going to change it for you. And crying out to us? Why? What do you achieve? If you want to discuss it at least do it in an ordely manner. I mean what the hell is "Episode I sucked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"?

For crying out loud did you even give Ep1 a chance? Did you even wait till the Saga is finished and see if Ep II and III impacted on it?
Did you even watch the extras like a true Star Wars fan and take into account what George said about this being the introduction of all the Star Wars elements so it's going to be a daunting tasks?

Eh. New commer Star Wars fans crack me up.

Am i the only fan that likes every single SW movie thats out. the only thing that i would change is the person that played anakin skywalker. what was george thinking. terrible acting from him. other that that, it told the story of how ani was encountered and how obi comes to train him and the mightedly pissing of from sidious, when they destroyed the trade federation, to announce a full scale attack in ep2. i think it fitted in qute well as every episode has a story to tell about the skywalkers life and being seduced by good and evil. it was actualy episode 1 that made me into a star wars mad man and am not regretting it

Each episode has a story to tell:

EP 1- the encounter of ani and his starting to be a jedi (80%)

EP 2- ani goes against the jedi council laws and falls in love + the brilliant clone wars to mark sidious's revenge (82 %)

EP3- how ani is seduced by the dark side and why all the jedi are extinct and the birth of Luke and Leia (Possible 99%)

Ep4- obi finding luke and training him to become a jedi (72%)

Ep5- life of DV and father vs son duel and DV reviels to luke that he is his father (95%)

Ep6- vaiders redemption. (94%)

some say that ep 2 was too "CGI-ish". all the cgi that was needed to be in there was in there. if there was no cgi then they wouldnt be able to do the clone wars.

sorry for the long post but i just wanted my point to come across

Ummm sure....so uh when did you come to this conclusion?

just now

Nope Ones I like em all too. 🙂

cool