Captain America vs. Wolverine

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i am talking as a prior marine and view of how some of my fellow marines would laugh at army cats with captain america shield on their sleeve...

most of us marines have trained our bodies for combat condition we have bn in combat or practice over and over skirmishes for that eventuality...

ive showed friends scans and comics of captain america and his corny views and behavior and all of my non comic reading friends laugh and think he is retarded.... and point out "he had to be army" as a obvious put down...

as a old school combat vet yes, he has earn all our respect... as a leader of marine no he hasnt nor would he...

any marine that would follow one of his orders on a marine military base without getting explicit confirmation from a marine superior would more then likely be under for a courtmarshal...

remember u cant respect a fictional character and captain america is an army representative and has very little respect to actual marines as a symbol for what it is to be a marine technically caps ideals dont mesh with marine standards....

technically cap doesnt meet the marine standard....

thousands of marines earned their physical conditioning and are more deserving then cap with decades worth of MA skills..... also being a supersoldier candidated doesnt mean u severely outclass all military personnel and units....

so their would be many ppl who have contempt for cap as their are marines who have it now...

To an extent I can see where your coming from. I wouldn't join the army or the marines because I dont like being told what to do, but I respect people in the army and the marines on principle that its an honourable thing to risk your life to defend something you believe in. Im sure there are some bad people in the army but I think some of them believe they are doing the right thing. Often on comic forums you get these comic fans who put too much into what people like Superman and Batman say and they dont understand that its a comicbook and their moral values to an extent wouldn't work in the real world. You just know if certain fans had to deal with real violence and suffering they wouldn't come out with that bullshit.

However on the other hand sometimes I think you just don't listen and only hear what you want to hear, for example.....

thousands of marines earned their physical conditioning and are more deserving then cap with decades worth of MA skills..... also being a supersoldier candidated doesnt mean u severely outclass all military personnel and units....

Didn't I already explain this? Cap had a condition, lets put it this way he was so frail they wouldn't let him in the army. As I already explained to you already if a person was born with that condition they wouldnt get very far in training, but despite that Cap still voluntereed. So techinically really hes more deserbing than you and your boys because he started off with less.

Also if you bothered to read a Cap comic and stop making up stuff you would know for the most part the SSS doesnt make that much difference and he still needs to train. There are numeorous examples of him taking out superhumans without the SSS.

I also dont know if Cap doesnt fit the marine standard, be specific. What exactly does Cap do that clashes so much with the marines?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i was responding to blanket and questioning the major pis that follows cap in comics and his absurd ideals that wouldnt fly in the real world whatsoever, and if u think i am wrong then u obviously dont know military protocol and procedures..

Originally posted by darthgoober
It's comics man. In the real world it wouldn't matter how much he was respected by the marines because he'd be arrested for being a vigilante just every other superhero would.

I dunno its been argued that they do something like a citzens arrest. So im not so sure. Batman beats guys up then hands them into the authorities for example.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I dunno its been argued that they do something like a citzens arrest. So im not so sure. Batman beats guys up then hands them into the authorities for example.

I doubt the Batmobile is insured, or has had a safety and emissions test either!

Originally posted by darthgoober
Both Batman and Cap are legally guilty of numerous counts of breaking and entering and assault with a deadly weapon(not to mention the fact that Bats carries around high explosives without any kind of federal permit). In the real world the armed forces would be trying to hunt down every hero possible.

Ah yeah forgot about that.

Originally posted by darthgoober
It's comics man. In the real world it wouldn't matter how much he was respected by the marines because he'd be arrested for being a vigilante just every other superhero would.

not sure if someone like Superman would exist in real life I think noone would arrest him cause it's some kind of civil courage

Originally posted by Parmaniac
not sure if someone like Superman would exist in real life I think noone would arrest him cause it's some kind of civil courage

My point is, there's no sense in saying that Cap wouldn't go over well in the "real world" with marines because virtually no one in spandex would. It's just part of the suspension of disbelief that comics require to make reading them enjoyable.

i think they'd give him diplomatic immunity since he's the defacto ambassador of krypton (new-krypton)

add all the good deeds he does, no politician would stoop low enough to even ask him about legalities, or even bring it up in a negative light.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i think they'd give him diplomatic immunity since he's the defacto ambassador of krypton (new-krypton)

add all the good deeds he does, no politician would stoop low enough to even ask him about legalities, or even bring it up in a negative light.

Originally posted by Loot
stan lee didn´t created wolverine, that´s why he would prefer cap, and wolverine has already save caps live in the past, during ww2, wolverine is simply better then captain.

Wolverine is NOT simply better than Captain America. If Cap had his healing factor and adamantium skeleton, what would you say then? In a long drawn out fight, Wolverine would have the upper hand seeing as how Cap most likely couldn't knock him out. One time they fought, Cap landed more blows but he isn't strong enough to get around the HF and adamantium skeleton. It's a matter of Wolverine having a ridiculous advantage. As far as their speed, strength and agility go, they should be evenly matched. Fighting ability would go slightly in Caps favor most notably because that is what he's known and respected for aside from his leadership abilities. But, Wolverine would probably win anyway 6/10.

i would argue with Cap being the better fighter or more knowledgeable in MA. 📖

Cap.

Period.

You say otherwise, you are wrong and need to go feel bad somewhere.

wolverine......bcuz it's obvious

Cap wins. Anyone who says differently is a Communist...

Wolverine stomp cap

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Wolverine stomp cap

Originally posted by Astanax
Wolverine is NOT simply better than Captain America. If Cap had his healing factor and adamantium skeleton, what would you say then? In a long drawn out fight, Wolverine would have the upper hand seeing as how Cap most likely couldn't knock him out. One time they fought, Cap landed more blows but he isn't strong enough to get around the HF and adamantium skeleton. It's a matter of Wolverine having a ridiculous advantage. As far as their speed, strength and agility go, they should be evenly matched. Fighting ability would go slightly in Caps favor most notably because that is what he's known and respected for aside from his leadership abilities. But, Wolverine would probably win anyway 6/10.

^ I don't think anybody considers 1 second of unconsciousness to be a knockout win.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Communist... 😛

Not at all!

Wolverine is canadian
Captain America is, well, american
Team Canada stomp Team USA in hockey

Perfect logic, dude!