Originally posted by Alfheim
Well fine. Spiderman cant take him down with punches. Cap does not have to use brute force.
What else is Cap going to use? Most of his wins come via punches or shield KO. If Spidey can't do it that way Cap is screwed and badly.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well basically Spiderman let him win.
HAHAHAHAHA!! That's a great idea. Lets allow the most dangerous man on the planet to beat me. No, unlike the above idea Spidey is actually intelligent.
Originally posted by Alfheim
I see so of all the people that Spiderman has faced all of a sudden Spiderman is scared shitless.
With good cause. Spidey had never fought a mass murderer of Wolverine's calibur before. So yes, he was scared, as well he should be.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah he was so fast that Wolverine didnt hit him once
He was coming damn close and it was only a matter of time before he connected. Doesn't matter anyway as Wolverine has hit him with ease on other occasions
Originally posted by Alfheim
So spiderman has not faced anyone like Wolverine in his whole career as a superhero....is that what you're trying to tell me?
Now he has, back then, no.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Wolverine was getting punched in the face because he could not dodge his blows. If you have some people coming to torture you're friend to death you dont sit around letting some one punch you. Obvoulsy he was getting punched because he couldnt dodge it and he was smiling because it couldn't stop him.
Wolverine was getting punched in the face because he fell. Wolverine has dodged Spidey's blows. He did it in that fight and has done it after that fight too.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah thats why Wolverine said Spiderman could snap his neck.
He was obviously mocking Spidey, trying to see how far he would go. Wolverine has adamantium bones. His neck isn't getting broken by Spidey. If Hulk can't do it Spidey can't.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Right thats why Wolverine said Spiderman could snap his neck, Spiderman did not try to snap his neck he could have but he didnt.
He would have been dead before he could even make the attempt. And he couldn't. Adamantium, use your head. Wolverine can pop his claws over 130 mph. Spidey was dogfood.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Also Spiderman said that he let Wolverine tackle him. Looks like you cant read. Ok from now on dont tell me to go back and read stuff or anybody else for that matter, got it?
Did I say Spidey didn't let Wolverine tackle him? No dumbass I did not. I never had. Stop putting words in my mouth. Point is eventually Wolverine would have tagged Spider-Man. Spidey realized he wouldn't kill Wolverine before Wolverine got a good hit in so he tried to manuever the fight where he could use his strength to his advantage. Wolverine could have just impaled him instead of tackling him (opportunity # 1) and he could have ripped Spidey's head off when he punched him in the face (opportunity # 2). Why didn't this happen? Obviously Wolverine wasn't trying to go for the kill. He wasn't fighting to beat Spidey, he was fighting to contain Spidey. Use your frikkin brain. Why punch him when you could stab him? Because Wolverine wasn't trying to kill him. DUH!?!?!?
Originally posted by Alfheim
Look Wolverine is too slow to dodge Spiderman's blows.
Yet Wolverine dodged him with ease in Marvel Comics Presents # 48 and again in Wolverine vs. Spidey # 1.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Wolverine is too slow to hit Spiderman.
Yet Wolverine Wailed on Spidey in Marvel Comics Presents # 48, backflip drop kicked him in Punisher # 34 (KO), and stabbed him in Marvel Knights Spider-Man # 13 (KO), and slammed him into a tree by his throat and threatened him at claw-point in Spider-Man # 12. So you are obviously mistaken little fanboy.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Wolverine says that Spiderman could snap his neck, but Spiderman does not because hes not a killer
Bwahahahaha!!! Then what was the point of letting Wolverine tackle him so he could try to break his neck in the first place? Makes no sense at all.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well if you want to be really accurate Wolverine won, but not because he is faster or stronger or has better tactics. He ONLY wins because Spiderman let him come in and Spiderman does not have the balls to kill him. If you want to call that a win....fine.
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win is a win big guy. Spidey made a mistake and it lost him the fight. Had Wolverine been trying to hurt Parker for real the fight would have been very different and Wolverine would have won anyway, eventually landing a killing blow.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah whatever. Did you know Wolverine is taller than Cap as well?
Did you know your mom is hot??? 😉
Originally posted by Alfheim
Oh yeah and heres Wolverines "win".
http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanvswolverine58qd9.jpg
Thanks, but I have it pal.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Cause Wolverine punked out, and gave up.
No, he was fighting to beat Cap, not kill him. When Cap got the sword 1 of 2 things would have happened.
1) Cap would have killed himself via bloodclot trying to cut Logan.
2) Wolverine would have had to kill Cap since Cap finally had a foreign weapon capable of hurting him.
Wolverine makes it known he doesn't want Cap dead, so he goes along with Cap until an opportunity arrises where he wont have to kill Cap. It did happen eventually and he took Cap down. The whole "He was afraid of the sword" argument seems kind of pointless considering he did get cut with it and was still able to fight not only Cap, but 3 other X-Men at the same time with the wound.
Wolverine afraid of Cap? Not a chance.
Wolverine afraid Capp will get himself killed? Obviously.
If that fight had continued without that damn plot device of a sword Cap would have been killed or KOed. shield was gone, claws were gone and Cap wouldn't have survived a physical altercation with Wolverine with that massive bloodclot.
Originally posted by Alfheim
You really think Wolverine should be outsmarting cap like that?
More experience in fighting and a more diverse knowledge of combat types assure that Logan should be able to at least draw even in the battle smarts department. Wolverine basically proves that he has a more detailed knowledge of the inner workings of the darker side of the black ops, secret mission game. Cap thinks he got a legitimate order from the president.
Originally posted by Alfheim
So all the other times that Spdierman has dodged Wolverine doesnt count, nor the fact that he is faster than Wolverine.....
So all the times Wolverine has dodged Spidey dont count? Nor the fact that Spidey thinks he might be faster, and he moves faster than Spidey can see? Needs to rely on Spidey Sense to compete with Wolverine.
Originally posted by darthgoober
That's funny because he seemed willing to jump Cap from behind later, so your argument doesn't hold much weight.
Duh, if he KO's Cap froom behind Cap wont exert himself in a head on fight and get killed via bloodclot. Wolverine didn't want Cap to get killed. It's pretty obvious since when he goes berserk he says, "Damn you for making me kill my friend."
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes but you know and I know Cap is better at strategy Wolverine should not have won like that.
Your right Cap should have used his superior strategy to get stabbed in the face instead.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Oh......my.......God! Im not even sure wether Wolverine was upgraded as well.
Pshaw!!! His "upgrade" aint even fast enough to deal with Cap. Cap landed 3 hits before Spidey got 1! Wolverine would have killed Parker in the first hit!!!
Originally posted by darthgoober
Did you even read the damn book?! If Cap hadn't gotten distracted, he would have walked Wolverine all the way to where he wanted to go. Wolverine gave NO indication of having ANY plans to jump Cap UNTIL HIS BACK WAS TURNED.
Yes he did. Wolverine had stopped walking. Cap said something like, "I say so. Get moving!" and Wolverine refuses. He was buttering Cap up with all the conspiracy crap, getting things heated. Nitro just blundered onto the scene right in the middle of it. There was nowhere for Wolverine to go. He flat out tells Cap there is no transport, therefor Wolverine knew there was a fight coming sooner or later, he just wanted it on his terms. He was probably just walking to buy time for his tendons to heal so he could have his claws to deal with the Muramasa blade.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Cap won.
Even though he had to be rescued from death twice in 2 issues. Bwahahahahaha!!!
Originally posted by darthgoober
If he's AS FAST, then why does Spiderman land so many more hits when they fight?
precog and superior agility, Duh!!! Spidey is tailor made for dodging side to side. Wolverine is tailor made for rushing in a straight line.
