Captain America vs. Wolverine

Originally posted by long pig
The "Flashback" was a dream. He dreamed it because he was knocked out.
He did regain conciousness in a matter of seconds, but he was indeed knocked out. Both times.

He was just reminiscing. Why you ask? So we would have a clue about why he asking what Sabretooth meant by "Quod Sum Eris". He wasn't knocked out, he wasn't dreaming... well... maybe he was day dreaming, but it was just a flash back so the reader whould know a) Sabretooth and Wolverine's first fight had been retconned and b) so we wouldn't be left in the dark by the conversation that was about to start.

Originally posted by long pig
He knocked him out both times. He broke his neck. It said: "KRAK!" and he went to sleep. Sabretooth held him up until he woke back up. Both times.

bullshit..

the first time he did it, wolverine was still fighting and striking flailing his arms about.. you can't do that with a broken neck.. 🤨

the second time.. wolverine was still on his feet. 😬

Originally posted by long pig
The "Flashback" was a dream. He dreamed it because he was knocked out.
He did regain conciousness in a matter of seconds, but he was indeed knocked out. Both times.

Haha.
I like how you're basically saying "No, he wasn't knocked out. He simply took a small nap in the middle of the fight. It had nothing to do with the fact that Sabretooth held him by the neck, squeezed and twisted it until it cracked!"

Heh, Wolverine is the world's first narcoleptic superhero.

so when wolverine is remembering the cat sequence at the beginning of the issue, WHILE walking towards the x mansion...

he's knocked out?

🤨

His eyes rolling back in his head and everything going white then passing out while having your neck twisted = fighting an flailing?

What issue was it where Sabretooth knocked him out the other time? Not the time when he shot him and k.o'd him, but the time when he broke his neck and k.o'd him.

I can't remember what issue.

the fighting and flailing WAS from the first time you THINK sabretooth broke his neck.. wolverine volIII issue 19

this time.. his eyes are rolling into the back of his head because sabretooth's choking the living daylights out of him, not because he's breaking his neck.. 🤨

and I'll ask you again since you dodged my question like freaking spiderman the first time 'round...

when wolverine was recalling the memory or images of the sabretooth cat at the beginning of the issue... he was obviously knocked out right?

Originally posted by jinzin
the fighting and flailing WAS from the first time you THINK sabretooth broke his neck.. wolverine volIII issue 19

this time.. his eyes are rolling into the back of his head because sabretooth's choking the living daylights out of him, not because he's breaking his neck.. 🤨

and I'll ask you again since you dodged my question like freaking spiderman the first time 'round...

when wolverine was recalling the memory or images of the sabretooth cat at the beginning of the issue... he was obviously knocked out right?

Simple.

I'm surprised you didn't say anything about him being knocked out by being shot once in the head. That's happened twice in V3.

Originally posted by long pig
You don't have to be knocked out to dream, but if you're dreaming during a fight after having your neck twisted and watching everything go blank....you've been knocked the **** out.

so when goku was dreaming about his family while fighting freeza he was knocked out?

Originally posted by long pig
I'm surprised you didn't say anything about him being knocked out by being shot once in the head. That's happened twice in V3.

that has nothing to do with this particular discussion...
rucca didn't quite seem to follow any particular logic in how he represented wolverine.. he showed wolverine multiple times taking bullets point blank with no effect.. but then he got dropped by a sniper round? or a taser?

it was plot motivated more than anything else.

Sabretooth breaks his neck. KRAK!
Wolverine wakes up a full day later.

😈

Originally posted by long pig
Sabretooth breaks his neck. KRAK!
Wolverine wakes up a full day later.

😈

forgive me if I'm mistaken but you're not reading the time elapsing accurately.. it said that was a day from the present, it doesn't say it was 24hours between the Ko and the waking up.. 😬

and again look at wolverine.. he's still struggling after his neck was broken?
wtf?

It's pretty much a full day, though. He was knocked out when it was almost dark and he woke up the next day afternoon, that's all I went by though.

Originally posted by long pig
It's pretty much a full day, though. He was knocked out when it was almost dark and he woke up the next day afternoon, that's all I went by though.

was that even sundown? was it not sun up?

in any case the time issues irrelivant to this discussion.. sabretooth didn't KO wolverine by breaking his neck, he Koed him by garrotting the shit out of wolves...

and again, how is wolverine continuing to struggle if his neck is broken?

how is he still capible of clenching his fists?

If a cracking noise is definitive proof of a broken neck, then my neck has been broken about a million times...

And if his neck was broken, he would have had temporary paralyses and would have been unable to move his arms - or any part of his body - while Sabretooth eviscerated him.

EXACTLY!

Depends on the level at which the injury occurred. I don't expect the writer had any in-depth knowledge of spinal cord injury anyway.

Before the Native went missing we the time line of 1d 23h 06m ago and when Wolverine wakes up from Sabretooth's attack we get the time line of 1d 17h 30m ago. The absolute maximum time Logan could have been out is 5h and 36 minutes but the down time would have had to have been significantly less considering he went searching for the Native for an unknown amount of time before he even ran across Sabretooth... then the two of them fought and who knows how long the fight actually lasted?.

I don't imagine he was down for that long... the time line doesn't allow for that long of a down time.

Paraplegia happens when the neck is broken. Your arms can indeed still move when that happens.

Your legs? Not so much.

Originally posted by long pig
Paraplegia happens when the neck is broken. Your arms can indeed still move when that happens.

Your legs? Not so much.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Depends on whether the injury occurred in the cervical or thoracic region of the spinal cord, and if in the cervical at which particular vertebra. I don't expect the writer had any in-depth knowledge of spinal cord injury anyway.

That's ridiculous. You're ridiculous.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Depends on whether the injury occurred in the cervical or thoracic region of the spinal cord, and if in the cervical at which particular vertebra. I don't expect the writer had any in-depth knowledge of spinal cord injury anyway.

You expect me to believe that if you ever break your neck Rucka isn't going to first person you call?

Originally posted by long pig
Wait, are you saying the writer doesn't have in-depth medical knowledge about spinal cord injuries and whether a snapped neck, just under the base of the neck causes quadriplegia, paraplegia or death?

That's ridiculous. You're ridiculous.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You expect me to believe that if you ever break your neck Rucka isn't going to first person you call?

Anyway the image indicates the injury of spinal column in some way or form.