Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
A small child has infinite strength, and a monstrous weight lifter has infinite strength.If the small child punches the ground, and the monstrous weight lifter punches the ground, it doesnt matter if they both have the same ability, The monstrous weight lifter is going to be able to destroy the boy, regardless, Size proportions do matter.
Are you reading the labels properly? 2 tablets every 4-6 hours and such.
"I'm sorry, but that is 'artistic liberty' right there if I've ever seen. I know it's a comic book and given to exaggeration, but come on now. Why would a character of Hulk's 'reputation' need such an obvious loophole to win?"
I agree. I sometimes see things I don't like but where as others tend to tell the writers they are wrong, I don't believe I have that right. I agree on that count. I still would have to actually see a fight between Gladiator and Hulk, with Gladiator victorious, to believe it. Not saying it's impossible, just saying I'd have to see it to believe it.
-AC
Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
A small child has infinite strength, and a monstrous weight lifter has infinite strength.If the small child punches the ground, and the monstrous weight lifter punches the ground, it doesnt matter if they both have the same ability, The monstrous weight lifter is going to be able to destroy the boy, regardless, Size proportions do matter.
Do you mean if two men had the same strength, a cruiserweight wouldn't be able to exert as much force behind their punch as a heavyweight?
Hulk being bigger doesn't account for much to whoever it was that is trying to make that argument. Mass and density are two separate matters. Plus, on top of that, the strength of a blow and force of a blow are different. A full impact, high velocity blow carries more force than a strong haymaker (for example, the lightning fast inch punch Bruce Lee is famous for versus a right cross from a boxer of the same build and strength). If someone as strong as Superman or Gladiator hits you full power at full speed, it is exponentially more damaging than anything Hulk could hit you with simply due to velocity. Hulk is very strong, but he can only generate so much force behind his blows due to his speed limitations, not his strength. Lifting strength and hitting strength have totally different mechanics. That's why a bodybuilder makes for a bad boxer.
If Hulk with his full strength and mass could move at light speeds it would be a different story.
Also, being really strong physically and throwing a strong punch do not go hand in hand. Just watch a few Ultimate Fighting matches.
If anyone has any more Gladiator and Hulk battles can someone Email it to me? My e-mail is [email protected]
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I honestly don't give a damn about this argument. But I do like adding to fawn the flames of controversy. 😈
"VS. HULK: We actually saw this already in Marvel vs. DC #3, which saw Supes coming out on top. "
He's refering to the fan voted crossover. The guy obviously hasn't read the Co-Wrote "Incredible Hulk Vs Superman". This isn't about Superman however. Besides, it's a group of peoples opinion. Yes it's Wizard, very credible but again, I could write for Wizard, so could a NUMBER of people on this board. It all comes down to opinion. I could write a list of the top 10, just as they have. Comic list made by comic fans, the fact that they own a magazine doesn't change the fact that they are, when it comes to it, comics fans like you or I.
*Does Ice-Man stuff to put flames of controversy out*
-AC
Originally posted by Draco69
http://www.silver-surfer.us/Top10list/Top10List.htmI honestly don't give a damn about this argument. But I do like adding to fawn the flames of controversy. 😈
*cackles* That's hilarious.
Alpha, I agree about the wizard statement, I mean come on, Wonder Woman beating the hulk, or better yet, The Flash beating the hulk? Come come now, I since a little biaseness in the midst...That ranking holds as much credibility as Bill Clinton in the oval office, with monica zipping up her pants and a blunt in his hand while listening to Bob Marley's Jammin...
Bottom line: According to Marvel, Gladiators not in the hulk's league, you can reason out Gladiator winning 24/7, but it's not going to happen due to his "supermanish" mocked stature.
i think that pretty much sums it up for all the pro gladiator posters on this thread. when it comes to t-i-t for tat writers arent gonna let hulk lose to anybody, especially a superman replicant. lets face it marvel has been trying to stick it to dc's top man for years. thats why clones like hyperion and gladiator were created, but i do find it a little suspicous that whenever these characters are in their own realm(gladiator,juggernaut, ) they are masters at what they do but whenever they cross dicks w/ fan favorites all of a sudden they have strategem brain farts.....just something to think about is all im saying
i mean c'mon how is it possible that the FF always repel gladiator w/ease? not to mention the x men
He does. Look at Wolverine beating down guys like Magneto, Exodus, Namor, etc. Spidey beating Firelord? Then when it's fan fav Logan battles fan fav Spidey, guess what happens? Logan actually matches Spidey - who should cream Logan in a fight considering Spidey's sense, speed, agility, strength, stamina, offensive range, and durability far acceeds Logans.
hulk can easily be written taking glads ( or supes ) punches no matter how fast hes hitting as is durability and healing are awesome. well within his character boundries. as for a dight strength would play a majorly lasrge role and hulk again can be written in at any level of strength
*THE FIRST TIME ABOM FOUGHT HULK HE NEARLY KILLED OLD GREEN EYES
hulk is one charater that can be written kicking anyones arse and not actually be outside his character, and dont start quoting me his losses , he is not gonna be written winning all the time with the strenth to i dont know smash planets in every book, other character s have to beat him, draw with him give him a hard fight to add to te story being written. the story wynndar showed is perfectly plausable, as hulk was pissed, and tey wanted to write glads losing , to me it didnt seem unrealistic, hulk is a character created to be able to reach the levels of power/durability to deal wth these guys should the story require it aswell as get bogged down in long scraps with lets say the thing.
HULK WHIPPED ARSE!
Originally posted by K3VIL
wrathofachilles, you've just forgot something important.Gladiator powers depends on his will, like a GL Lantern.If a GL is scared and doesn't thrust in his own will is defeated before the fight.The same for Kallark.Kallark thrust in himself totally and thinks he can punch the Hulk like a doll throwing him into space he CAN.In that Issue, Kallark was bad writing cause he just was put here to being defeat by the green goliath.He doesn't use his heat vision at high levels, because if he do it, he can pierce Hulk skin easy.He doesn't use superspeed to heat Hulk and avoi his attacks, he was bad writed.He use a little of eyebeams, 1punch, flew into space and get handclaped on the head, and then put KO after being weakned by radiations.This is not a stalemate battle.It's a pre decide end battle.
SORRY PAL
Originally posted by illadelph12
No, we're not overlooking the fact that they've already fought. Just taking into account that given the abilities Gladiator has at his disposal (granted by his own writers) he should more times than not beat the Hulk in a fight.After reading the comic where the fight takes place, it's apparent they toned down Gladiator quite a bit in order to make the fight interesting. If Gladiator truly wanted, given his speed and strength, he could take the Hulk out before he has an oppurtunity to become fully enraged. Don't forget, even though Hulk has limitless rage (and because of it, limitless strength), it is not instantaneous. It's a physiological change. It takes a few moments to go from normal to completely enraged (even for someone with a radiation enriched mental disorder), and Gladiator has the ability to move so fast he can move outside of normal time. He could hit Hulk with 100 full power, planet shattering punches in a matter of 1-3 seconds before Hulk's brain could register the damage he just sustained.
Basically, the writers took quite a bit of liberty with Gladiator in order to show just how strong Hulk 'is', but in reality, they just downplayed Gladiator to make it an interesting fight the fan favorite could win. If Gladiator wasn't as fast as he is with the strength he has on top of that, Hulk would have a chance.
And I'm sorry, but the finale of Hulk just all of a sudden knowing that Gladiator is some how vulnerable to some forms of radiation (even though he travels through space without any form of external protection and is constantly exposed to various forms of known and unknown radiation) and choke slamming him into a nuclear reactor is pretty, well, weak.
I'm a Hulk fan, but he does have his limitations even though one of them isn't strength. Gladiator at full power just brings too much to the table.