Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Started by Metalmanx244 pages
Originally posted by jinzin
hulk has tried his sonic clap on wolverine... 😕

I believe C-Master was asking why Hulk doesn't do it constantly, and just continuously liquify Wolverine's insides.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I believe C-Master was asking why Hulk doesn't do it constantly, and just continuously liquify Wolverine's insides.

most of the time wolverine fights hulk he fights savage hulk.. who isn't well known for his mastery at being a tactician as far as I'm aware.. 😕

he sees logan and he's so mad all he wants to do is "smash little man".

Originally posted by jinzin
all he wants to do is "smash little man".
Which is what should happen.... but doesn't for some inexplicable reason...

Originally posted by jinzin
if thanos passed out from the kick you might have a point there...

now your talking about a different fight completely... pffft... same old cordy can't even keep pace... 🙄

Only jinzin and wolverine8888 would associate wolverine getting hit in the face 10 times for winning... if you couldn't tell that was a hyperbole with a touch of sarcasm... 😉 (particularly with the thanos ordeal)

what part of that is hyperbole? 🤨 as if wolverine's never taken hits from someone as strong as spidey.. 🙄

I assume it to be a win for wolverine cause.. A) he held back and spidey went all out...

B) he landed a shot on spidey's face without his claws.. with his claws.. different story...

C) at the end of the fight he was fine, spiderman wasn't... spiderman could barely stand.....

Wolverine was down from a glancing blow from thing and hulk too...

not without other heavy factors in their favor.... I'd still call a glancin blow from either one of them to be something much more powerful than what spidey's dishin out.. seriously, don't you ever bring anything new to the table.. or should I just be thankful you're not still ranting on about flash and boomerangs?

Originally posted by jinzin
not without other heavy factors in their favor.... I'd still call a glancin blow from either one of them to be something much more powerful than what spidey's dishin out.. seriously, don't you ever bring anything new to the table.. or should I just be thankful you're not still ranting on about flash and boomerangs?
Weren't any "heavy factors" in their favor.

I'm tired of hearing the same old ranting about the same old matches, from the same old people who don't acknowledge logic, or what PIS/CIS is. Ever, same thing in abomination and wrecker threads. The glancing blow is NOT more than what spiderman could dish out, and not at the same speed. You keep repeating the same old spiderman wolverine crossovers that are basically there to keep fans happy, and instead of giving a reason why they would lose, you just use matches riddled with PIS/Cis. Just like wolverine vs wonderwoman, wolverine vs abom, batman vs hulk, wolverine vs namor etc. etc. etc.

I'm not really here for a true debate with you, as you aren't going to change, but I'd like you to see some things.

Spiderman at his best is simply better than wolverine at his best, period. YOu want the wolverine who is at his best, and the spiderman who gets caught be kingpin. Na uh...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
3 of them? spiderman has faced multiple heroes before, not a factor.
The X-Men thing? Pure PIS plain and simple as I have pointed out.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The fact that he outlasses them IS the factor.
Appearently he doesn't outclass them as bad as you think he does if each of them can give him problems, hell he does have yet to actually beat wolverine in a fight.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
He negated nothing, just because nightcrawler doesn't teleport every whim he gets doesn't mean much.
You mean other than the fact that he struggled with it when he normally teleports out of situations like that? And how about storm giving off one measly little lightning bolt and calling it a day? And how does 39 ton holding strength hold a 75 ton character?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Does hulk sonic clap wolverine away, no.
He tried and failed.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
SO don't complain to me about pis when spiderman's feats clearly outclasses his opponents,
You use pis you're going to be called on it.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
whilst fanboys use them all the time. Plain and simple, they can't keep up with them, he takes out two with one hit,
Oh now he hits two of them with one hit . . normally you say its one hit each, which still wouldn't be that easy as they wouldn't just be standing there. Normally when Spiderman tries that on Cap Cap blocks with theat sheild of his, and DD's radar sense can here him getting ready to punch, and of course Wolverine has taken worse than Spiderman punches.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
NONE of them can outmuscle the webbing. There is no logical reason YET on why he should lose,
Because they out last him with having to expend less energy since there are three enemies? Of who any one of them give him problems?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
its just the fact that its ONE HERO vs THREE.
Which is going to be a hassle since any one of the three give him problems. ESPECIALLY The canadian midget.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I believe C-Master was asking why Hulk doesn't do it constantly, and just continuously liquify Wolverine's insides.
Because though hulk aint a bright bulb he usually doesn't try something that doesn't work too often. . . except punching, since that always works for him eventually.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Which is what should happen.... but doesn't for some inexplicable reason...
The healing factor appearently.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Weren't any "heavy factors" in their favor.

I'm tired of hearing the same old ranting about the same old matches, from the same old people who don't acknowledge logic, or what PIS/CIS is.

And you know exactly what PIS is which is why you keep brining up the X-men thing.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Ever, same thing in abomination and wrecker threads. The glancing blow is NOT more than what spiderman could dish out,[/]b
Spiderman hits harder than the Hulk's glancing blows? 😆

Yeah and the people supporting Wolverine are the fanboys.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
[B] and not at the same speed. You keep repeating the same old spiderman wolverine crossovers that are basically there to keep fans happy, and instead of giving a reason why they would lose, you just use matches riddled with PIS/Cis.
PIS? in the graveyard?

CIS is admisible in fights since morals and holding back are what the characters do. That is part of "in character"

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Just like wolverine vs wonderwoman, wolverine vs abom, batman vs hulk, wolverine vs namor etc. etc. etc.
How about sticking to this fight instead of trying to discredit your opponents with other fights? 😉

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm not really here for a true debate with you, as you aren't going to change, but I'd like you to see some things.
you're doing the same things you used yto, he's doing the same things he used to. and you're talking about him not changing?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Spiderman at his best is simply better than wolverine at his best, period. YOu want the wolverine who is at his best, and the spiderman who gets caught be kingpin. Na uh...
As opposed to Wolverine who goes down from the slightest tap and has a taxed out healing factor as compared to Cosmic Spiderman. . .

Originally posted by jinzin
or should I just be thankful you're not still ranting on about flash and boomerangs?

C-Master: "Why does flash get hit with boomerangs?"
Creshosk: "Since when does Flash get hit by boomerangs? http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1420/jlavengers24gt.jpg"

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's from the same one where they show Collosus pulling him off the wall, and the wall is destroyed before He is, and he's freaking kicking silver surfer. . . 🙄
What's so unbelievable about the wall breaking? Or him kicking SS? SS isn't known for dodging hits, especially from people who can't really hurt him. Nitpicking?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hard to say with the current speed stat we have for em. . they might seem faster than they are due to sheer numbers. but 90 feet per second isn't THAT fast really. . .
Yes it is. Can any of these guys travel that fast?

No. No they can't. Not even on the best days of their lives could they wish to move this fast.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Yes it is. Can any of these guys travel that fast?
What does traveling at 60 mph have to do with this fight?

Baseball players can smack faster pitches out of the air.

Spiderman has difficulty due to the number of tenticles, not their speed.

Originally posted by Creshosk
The X-Men thing? Pure PIS plain and simple as I have pointed out.

Appearently he doesn't outclass them as bad as you think he does if each of them can give him problems, hell he does have yet to actually beat wolverine in a fight.

You mean other than the fact that he struggled with it when he normally teleports out of situations like that? And how about storm giving off one measly little lightning bolt and calling it a day? And how does 39 ton holding strength hold a 75 ton character?

He tried and failed.

You use pis you're going to be called on it.

Oh now he hits two of them with one hit . . normally you say its one hit each, which still wouldn't be that easy as they wouldn't just be standing there. Normally when Spiderman tries that on Cap Cap blocks with theat sheild of his, and DD's radar sense can here him getting ready to punch, and of course Wolverine has taken worse than Spiderman punches.

Because they out last him with having to expend less energy since there are three enemies? Of who any one of them give him problems?

Which is going to be a hassle since any one of the three give him problems. ESPECIALLY The canadian midget.

Well thank you for repeating what I said, though it was quite useless to begin with, becuase I know its pIS but its no different than YOUR pis except that outclasses YOUR characters.

Giving them problems, thats the ONLY argument you can conjure, and again none of it goes with the criteria of the match, so try again...

Oh and I'm willing to bet fast full force punches are worse than a glancing blow.

You haven't argued the fact that they are slower or anything but gone off of criteria not used.

Try again.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Oh and I'm willing to bet fast full force punches are worse than a glancing blow.
Yes because 15 tons > 100 tons. 🙄 And we're the fanboys. . . 😆

Do you know what a ghlancing blow is? A single one?

Reminds me of storm and carnage where we thought storm was faster than machine gun fire, and that you had to be in a sport to be athletic.

tsk tsk

Oh and I didnt call you fanboys, you labeled yourself as one, thats just a guilty conscience.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Do you know what a ghlancing blow is? A single one?
Hulk is 100 tons. . . a glancing blow from 100 tons is less than 15 tons? 🙄

Yes because Spiderman does more damage than the hulk, because he's faster and more effiecient with his punches. 🙄

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Reminds me of storm and carnage where we thought storm was faster than machine gun fire, and that you had to be in a sport to be athletic.
No, you have to be in a sport to be an athlete. Bit of a difference.

And who said anything about Storm being faster than machine gun fire.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
tsk tsk

Oh and I didnt call you fanboys, you labeled yourself as one, thats just a guilty conscience.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
whilst fanboys use them all the time.
🙂 That was in reference to the encounters between Wolverine and Spiderman that you are desperatly trying to brush off as PIS without giving any reason other than "It doesn't make sense because Spiderman is so much more uber than that!"

🤣

Originally posted by Creshosk
Hulk is 100 tons. . . a glancing blow from 100 tons is less than 15 tons? 🙄

Yes because Spiderman does more damage than the hulk, because he's faster and more effiecient with his punches. 🙄

Yes, actually. A glancing blow would require a VERY slow hit. One that really shouldn't even do too much damage anyway. 100-tonner or not. A full force, concentrated 15 ton blow, however, would be quite damaging.