Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

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Originally posted by Juk3n
Lots of oneshot smartalec answers. Personally i think Spidey's powerset puts him as a team wrecker, sure he's a d!ck sometimes, but im convinced a clean webbshot pretty much disables any limb it hits On Daredevil and Cap. Spidey can take the Billy club and shield via webbing also. I mean all he has to do is really get his hands on the weapon and pull..it'd be a case of let go of the weapon or lose an arm , for cap and dd. This is forum Pete afterall. DD needs one it to be KO'ed. Cap takes a couple more, mabe a webswinging slam against the scenery. Don't get me wrong, im not saying Pete wins. Wolverines the kicker here because of his duability and claws. But coordinating 3 bodies in an assault on 1 human sized target all looking for an opening, all the while he's zipping around the battlefield,WHILE trying to dodge wide spray web shots AND trying to launch your own weapons - which if missed would be tossed with 15 ton strength out of the battlefield.

And they guy has pre-cog. I dont think it's so clear cut as to give smartbum 1 shot answers. Spidey's taking more blows from the humans then they are from him. And since it's 'by any means..' a web shot to the face drops dd and cap until wolverine gets over there to cut it off, leaving the other guy to get web shotted and slammed. meh, it COULD happen is all im saying. And to the people saying 'Wolverine has a chance by himself..he doesn't need te other two' you're exactly right, but having more of them lends itself to petes advantage in CQC, 3 people all trying to land hits on one faster more agile target in a tight space is bad news for the three.

this seems like one of the more reasonable answers i've seen in this thread....

If this is in an open space, and forum spiderman, I don't really see a how anyone on the team should land a hit on him at all, meanwhile he could go crazy with his webbing, which would be a hell of a problem for the team.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Dude, seriously, a non-jobbing CIS-less Spider-Man can dodge their attacks all day long while reading the newspaper. The team only has two ranged attacks, the billy club of DD and the shield of CA. Wolverine has no ranged attack, unless he throws his cigar at him.

oh give me a break those 3 are not some street thugs, each of those 3 got super speed feats of his own, each of those 3 got feats such as having quicker reflex than bullets, tagging super fast beings, and defeating multiple opponents via speedblitzing.

spider-man is faster than each of them however if those 3 attack him combined and no PIS spider man is dead and beaten to death, wolverine doesnt need a cigar he has a 30 cm claws that will impale spidy very fast in a situation like this.

After Spidey's webbed Cap's shield and KO'd Daredevil with it, it'll come in handy blocking Wolverines claws (if Wolverine even manages to get close to Spidey in the first place, which is pretty unlikely IMO).

His best bet is to just use his wallcrawling to take the high ground and then throw stuff at them LOL.

Originally posted by Silent_Bomber
After Spidey's webbed Cap's shield and KO'd Daredevil with it, it'll come in handy blocking Wolverines claws (if Wolverine even manages to get close to Spidey in the first place, which is pretty unlikely IMO).

His best bet is to just use his wallcrawling to take the high ground and then throw stuff at them LOL.

ha? and while spidy is webbing cap's shield and trying to pull the shield from cap everybody will be just standing and looking at him? KO daredevil with a shield throw? really? daredevil who got RADAR SENSES?
you make no sense try again.

Originally posted by red sabre
ha? and while spidy is webbing cap's shield and trying to pull the shield from cap everybody will be just standing and looking at him?
Wolverine will be trying to climb up the wall Spidey is sitting on, which will put him in a horrible defensive position and get him kicked, hard, in the head.

Or after Cap's shield is taken he may well be like "Cap! fastball special!!" thrown at Spidey, Spidey will dodge with ease and Wolverine will be stuck in the wall

Originally posted by red sabre
KO daredevil with a shield throw? really? daredevil who got RADAR SENSES?
Daredevil -

"My radar senses say I'm about to be hit with a shield"

#Daredevil gets hit with shield#

Originally posted by Silent_Bomber
Wolverine will be trying to climb up the wall Spidey is sitting on, which will put him in a horrible defensive position and get him kicked, hard, in the head.

Or after Cap's shield is taken he may well be like "Cap! fastball special!!" thrown at Spidey, Spidey will dodge with ease and Wolverine will be stuck in the wall

Daredevil -

"My radar senses say I'm about to be hit with a shield"

#Daredevil gets hit with shield#

non of what you said makes any sense at all, why is spidy on a wall? why would wolverine climb a wall? how will spidy get caps shield? how will spidy be able to hit daredevil with the shield if daredevil got radar senses and reflex fast enough to dodge bullets? can spider man throw the shield faster than a bullet? you think anyone can throw the shield the way cap does? you think spidy will be able to survive this onslaught? you like sushi? which lipstick?

Originally posted by red sabre
why is spidy on a wall?

Because it, or any other high vantage point would be a good place to attack them from whilst limiting their options.

One things for sure, Spider-man isn't going to be brawling with these guys in a mass, and unless he's retarded they're not going to be surrounding him either.

Originally posted by Silent_Bomber
Because it, or any other high vantage point would be a good place to attack them from whilst limiting their options.

One things for sure, Spider-man isn't going to be brawling with these guys in a mass, and unless he's retarded they're not going to be surrounding him either.

so he climbs a wall and then what? how will he attack them? shoot useless webs which they can easily avoid ? what kind of scenario is this??????? its a fight!!! and you know whats going down in a fight? they be fighting son you dig me? and if people here are bringing an all out spidy then guess what??? an all out spidy wont be sticking his a$$ into a wall ... what will he do on a wall??? try to take a dump on them??????

Originally posted by red sabre
[B]how will he attack them? shoot useless webs which they can easily avoid?
Spider-Man's hit Wolverine with webs in the past.

Spidey being much faster than the three can easily web them up with ease.
I believe Spidey (written well) can win without webbing. He's simply too fast for them.

Depsite never having been *too fast* for any of them? Yyyyyeah no.

Nobody's too fast for Final Justice.

Originally posted by red sabre
so he climbs a wall and then what? how will he attack them? shoot useless webs which they can easily avoid ? what kind of scenario is this??????? its a fight!!! and you know whats going down in a fight? they be fighting son you dig me? and if people here are bringing an all out spidy then guess what??? an all out spidy wont be sticking his a$$ into a wall ... what will he do on a wall??? try to take a dump on them??????

Useless webs? Good lord. The webs are most likely going to be the biggest problem for the team. His webbing has moved fast enough to tag opponents faster than himself. Nobody is EASILY avoiding them.

Originally posted by red sabre
so he climbs a wall and then what? how will he attack them? shoot useless webs which they can easily avoid ? what kind of scenario is this??????? its a fight!!! and you know whats going down in a fight? they be fighting son you dig me? and if people here are bringing an all out spidy then guess what??? an all out spidy wont be sticking his a$$ into a wall ... what will he do on a wall??? try to take a dump on them??????
Useless webs they can easily avoid? How? Or are we assuming that while the trio fights at their absolute best Spider-man is going to shoot separate web-lines at them? What's stopping him from spraying webbing all over the place covering most of the battlefield (no holding back would take him few seconds) an attack he can pull off in mid-leap while dodging the trio, and yes in an open battlefield he can avoid them for a certain period of time, definitely long enough to pull this off. And that's more than enough to beat Cap and DD (potentially Logan as well as we've never seen SM try and web him up by anything other than a few web lines in comix, which is far from what he's really capable off). And not that it matters... Spider-man can throw shield the way Cap does.

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Originally posted by SamZED
(potentially Logan as well as we've never seen SM try and web him up by anything other than a few web lines in comix, which is far from what he's really capable off).
Originally posted by SamZED
Useless webs they can easily avoid? How? Or are we assuming that while the trio fights at their absolute best Spider-man is going to shoot separate web-lines at them? What's stopping him from spraying webbing all over the place covering most of the battlefield (no holding back would take him few seconds) an attack he can pull off in mid-leap while dodging the trio, and yes in an open battlefield he can avoid them for a certain period of time, definitely long enough to pull this off. And that's more than enough to beat Cap and DD (potentially Logan as well as we've never seen SM try and web him up by anything other than a few web lines in comix, which is far from what he's really capable off). And not that it matters... Spider-man can throw shield the way Cap does.

how can they avoid the webs? by avoiding them? Lol, do you honestly believe those 3 will let him even catch his breath? as we said they all fight to their best potential, those 3 at their best simply wont give spider man a 1 single second to catch his breath let alone play with his webs , cap starts with a shield throw, by the time spiderman avoid the shield throw wolverine already closed the distance and jumping all over him, by the time spider man avoiding wolverine or countering him both cap and daredevil already closed that distance and the 3 of them are in his face, spiderman had a hard time fighting each and each of those guys, sometimes CIS was involved however even a let lose spiderman is not going to handle the 3 of those deadly fighters all together.

captain america, wolverine,daredevil all leathal fighters that can cripple spiderman with 1 hit to pressure point area, daredevil can use his deadly technique which he doesnt use unless he is cut lose, same goes for cap and wolverine, they know spiderman and they will target to hit his vital organs and his pressure points that will cripple him and wont allow him to move that fast already, this is just a slaughter for spiderman.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
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nice try but if you actually read comics and stop looking for pictures on google you will know wolverine was surprised from behind by spiderman and wasnt expecting him to web him up, i do believe in this fight wolverine is actually fighting spidy.

Lol I know that. Sam said we'd never seen spidey web him up, and that's all I posted. You still haven't explained how he's gonna dodge a whole blanket of webbing. Like dodging is what wolverine majors at. He gets hit by EVERYTHING. It's not like spidey can shoot the webbing once and has to stop. If he sticks to the wall and fires nets of webbing, and web balls with the force that hurts superhumans and the speed that tags superhumans constantly, only Cap could possibly do something about it. And Spidey could easily dodge his shield.

Originally posted by red sabre
how can they avoid the webs? by avoiding them? Lol, do you honestly believe those 3 will let him even catch his breath? as we said they all fight to their best potential, those 3 at their best simply wont give spider man a 1 single second to catch his breath let alone play with his webs , cap starts with a shield throw, by the time spiderman avoid the shield throw wolverine already closed the distance and jumping all over him, by the time spider man avoiding wolverine or countering him both cap and daredevil already closed that distance and the 3 of them are in his face, spiderman had a hard time fighting each and each of those guys, sometimes CIS was involved however even a let lose spiderman is not going to handle the 3 of those deadly fighters all together.

captain america, wolverine,daredevil all leathal fighters that can cripple spiderman with 1 hit to pressure point area, daredevil can use his deadly technique which he doesnt use unless he is cut lose, same goes for cap and wolverine, they know spiderman and they will target to hit his vital organs and his pressure points that will cripple him and wont allow him to move that fast already, this is just a slaughter for spiderman.

They wont give him a second to catch his breath? He doesn't need a second and he wont need to catch his breath. You'd have a point if Spider-man was forced to fight them up close and personal, in that case agreed, the speed difference wont make much difference as he'll have hard time dodging all of them them in CQC. But the fact is - he doesn't have to. Wide, featureless environment + starting distance? All he has to do is stay away from their reach by jumping (or web-zipping himself) in a different direction from where they're coming and he can keep this up for A LONG time. He's already faster and can jump further and higher than any one of them. Add webbing and he can easilly stay out of their range. Cap starts with a shield throw? That only means he instantly loses his only weapon for the rest of the fight, same goes for DD. It's not just the trio who's going all out you know. And Spider-man will see the shield coming a mile away and easilly..no effortlessly catch it and web it up. Won't take him a fraction of a second even. And the main question remains - how are they going to avoid his webbing? "By avoiding it" is not good enough. I see that you're assuming he'll let himself get surrounded while shooting weblines at them like an idiot, and that's just not going to happen. All out means all out for all of them. Id love to see them try to avoid a wide range web attacks, the same attack he used to web up an entire building within seconds, or create a 30 foot (in raduis) web-ball, or when he within seconds (second?) sprayed enough webbing to stop a fraction of a freaking tsunami. He can easilly stay out of their range but he doesnt even have to, all he has to do is leap back once and go nuts with his web-shooters. CIS is the only thing stopping him from doing that in comics and CIS wont be a problem here. Or even a way simplier tactics, just spray the ground with webbing (everywhere) one wrong step and they're stuck. Good luck avoiding web traps while he's leaping and web-zipping himself all over the place while spraying more and more webbing at them. End result is the same - DD and Cap will get stuck/webbed up. Possibly Wolverine too. I don't see how you could think it's a slaughter in any way of form. Heck, it's not a slaughter even without the webbing. DD and Cap can use pressure point attacks? Good for them. So can Spider-man but with a class 10-20 strength behind each attack and greater speed plus spider sense guiding every strike, CIS off he can kill either DD or Cap with one of those. And no disrespect for them but Logan is the only one here who makes a real difference. And even assuming magnetic webbing (that is a part of SM's standard equipment these days) wont stop him all together it'll surely slow him down.