Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

Originally posted by Fëanor
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eh?? 😕

Originally posted by zopzop
He also beat Savage Hulk and almost KOed Masterson Thor with punches.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
And I would hate to see current Spidey wearing the symbiote or something wreck a team infinitely more powerful than this one.Wait...

Well, if Spiderman goes into herald KOing mode, by forum rules it indicates that Wolverine goes into IG Thanos cutting mode, along with speedster punking mode, along with enough make class 100 opponents bleed abd pynk bulletproofers with headbutt strength mode. Cap goes into Rhino, Namor and Thor crushing strength mpde plus can tank city shaking punches without iconic shield durability mode and DD goes into Herc busting angry Namor punch tamking mode and crush Spidey like the bug he is. To note, I vited for Spidey

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
To note, I vited for Spidey

Hulk... you... you traitor...

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One Big Mob Dead

Spider-Man dies to anyone solo (except Wolverine). I don't need to read the op to know that there's no special stipulations powerful enough to allow Spider-Man to win here

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Spider-Man dies to anyone solo (except Wolverine).

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wolverine did break free just fine 🙂
They're all close in the combat speed department, actually.

Except the time he didn't break free just fine.

No they aren't. Spider-Man is vastly faster. He legitimately has low level super speed. The others don't. I would say Spidey is 2-4x faster than cap. 4-8x faster than DD and 3-5x faster than wolverine.

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hulk... you... you traitor...
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It was out of pity. And the spiderman suppporters definitely could use some

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by h1a8
Except the time he didn't break free just fine.
No they aren't. Spider-Man is vastly faster. He legitimately has low level super speed. The others don't. I would say Spidey is 2-4x faster than cap. 4-8x faster than DD and 3-5x faster than wolverine.

Like when... in a non-combat scenario? Even then, he found a way to break loose in a reasonable time, sufficient for forum matches.

He is not vastly faster. Daredevil has numerous showings in which he deflects bullets with his billy clubs. Cap on panel moved faster than bullets, so did Wolverine.

There's no reason to believe that Cap is faster than Wolverine, as Wolverine has been stated to possess hyper-reflexive speed, superior to that of Namor or Thor. He's also been stated to be almost as fast as upgraded Sabretooth - and Logan's speed specifically underwent an additional mutation, too.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Like when... in a non-combat scenario? Even then, he found a way to break loose in a reasonable time, sufficient for forum matches.
He is not vastly faster. Daredevil has numerous showings in which he deflects bullets with his billy clubs. Cap on panel moved faster than bullets, so did Wolverine.
There's no reason to believe that Cap is faster than Wolverine, as Wolverine has been stated to possess hyper-reflexive speed, superior to that of Namor or Thor. He's also been stated to be almost as fast as upgraded Sabretooth - and Logan's speed specifically underwent an additional mutation, too.

Logan seemed webbed for more than a few minutes (if not a couple of hours). Are we talking about the same instance?
Non PIS webbing has a tensile strength of 10 tons per line. If Spidey webs Logan with a few lines then there is no way he's breaking free. Even with a single line, Logan isn't breaking free. Remember, webbing is of the non PIS version here.

Feats against bullets is meaningless. There are many levels of bullet feats. For example, Spidey dodging a bullet when it is a few inches from his body is more than 5x faster than any feat made by the other characters. DD bat bullets by a combnation of speed and radar sense (knows when the trigger is going to be pulled and where the nozzle is pointing before the bullet leaves the gun). Cap dodges bullets from15 feet away by a few inches (barely). This is a vast difference.

We go by feats to prove speed. Hyper tiger uppercut speed is meaningless if we can't quantify it.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by h1a8
Logan seemed webbed for more than a few minutes (if not a couple of hours). Are we talking about the same instance?

Webbing dissolves after a couple of hours max. Sometimes just an hour or less, depending on the writer. One would think that a Spider-Man fan would know that.

You know only about one instance, scans you've seen being posted here, so yes.

Just a few moments it was - enough for Spider-Man to get away with the kid... Logan quickly realized he's not going to break free with his strength, so he used the claws.

And guess what. Having that experience here, in a forum match, he'd break free even faster... if Spider-Man were able to web him up like that in an actual fight scenario. Against three opponents. All of which have given him hell in the past.

Originally posted by h1a8
Non PIS webbing has a tensile strength of 10 tons per line. If Spidey webs Logan with a few lines then there is no way he's breaking free. Even with a single line, Logan isn't breaking free. Remember, webbing is of the non PIS version here.

Non-PIS webbing also needs to harden first, which can - and has - been easily prevented by fast characters.

Originally posted by h1a8
Feats against bullets is meaningless. There are many levels of bullet feats. For example, Spidey dodging a bullet when it is a few inches from his body is more than 5x faster than any feat made by the other characters. DD bat bullets by a combnation of speed and radar sense (knows when the trigger is going to be pulled and where the nozzle is pointing before the bullet leaves the gun). Cap dodges bullets from15 feet away by a few inches (barely). This is a vast difference.

Good, then Spidey loses a good share of his feats.

No. Cap dodged the bullet after it's been fired... by Winter Soldier... who was standing in front of him.

Originally posted by h1a8
We go by feats to prove speed. Hyper tiger uppercut speed is meaningless if we can't quantify it.

You go by nothing - you don't read comics. Something tells me you never did.

Why are you here? Some science experiment for your class?

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/9055/1267204-wolverine_webbed.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/9055/1267205-wolverine_webbed2.jpg

Just in case it hasn't been posted here is wolverine breaking out of webbing:

StiltmanFTW CBvF

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And he only got suckered like that because he didn't mean to actually fight Parker and had claws in.

With claws out, he made short work out of Kaine's webbing. Similar as Taskmaster did with Spider-Man's, iirc.

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

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Better quality versions of the same scans:

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

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Slucing Kaine's webbing

One Big Mob Dead

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/3652890-scarlet+spider+vs+wolverine2.jpg
Slucing Kaine's webbing

If you really want to respect Wolverine you should post the scans after that. Beastly.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

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HulkIsHulk Senior Member

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Another instance of breaking free from Marven Knights Spiderman/ Nrw Avengers

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

Originally posted by One Big Mob
If you really want to respect Wolverine you should post the scans after that. Beastly.

Which one? Two-shot KOing Kaine or dodging bullets easier than Kaine could?

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/41521/990338-982508_max0006gn9_super.jpg
Wolverine has escaped from webbing even in that dreadful Ennis issue.
I an oretty sure he escaped in astonishibg as well

One Big Mob Dead

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Which one? Two-shot KOing Kaine or dodging bullets easier than Kaine could?

The immediate page after that. I believe it is definitely the one where Wolverine 2 shots him.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Webbing dissolves after a couple of hours max. Sometimes just an hour or less, depending on the writer. One would think that a Spider-Man fan would know that.
You know only about one instance, scans you've seen being posted here, so yes.
Just a few moments it was - enough for Spider-Man to get away with the kid... Logan quickly realized he's not going to break free with his strength, so he used the claws.
And guess what. Having that experience here, in a forum match, he'd break free even faster... if Spider-Man were able to web him up like that in an actual fight scenario. Against three opponents. All of which have given him hell in the past.
Non-PIS webbing also needs to harden first, which can - and has - been easily prevented by fast characters.
Good, then Spidey loses a good share of his feats.
No. Cap dodged the bullet after it's been fired... by Winter Soldier... who was standing in front of him.
You go by nothing - you don't read comics. Something tells me you never did.
Why are you here? Some science experiment for your class?

I never said Cap didn't dodge after the bullet was fired. I know that he did.
Completely dodging a bullet when it is a few inches away is more than 15x faster than barely getting one's head out of the way when the bullet is 5 ft away. Proof:
5 ft is 60 inches. Spidey moved his entire body out of the way when the bullet was 4inches away. This is more than 15 times less distance than 5ft. There is no contest.

Prove that the webbing is softer the moment it strikes the target vs. A few seconds later. Because Spidey has many times instantly webbed objects that weighed tonnage.

Spidey can one shot DD, Web both Cap and Wolverine, then ko Cap before Wolverine breaks free.

I don't consider fights filled with PIS. Spidey is faster than a bullet and has Pre cog. He knows the attack is coming before it does. In a forum fight, it would be near impossible for someone without grade A speed to even physically touch him.